IT'S HER TUUUUUUUUUURN :sicko-beaming:
edit: words cannot encapsulate exactly how badly I want to watch her lose AGAIN
Biden in 2024
82 is too old to be fit for office
Hillary in 2024
at only 77 she really connects with the young voters
the only time hilary clinton connects with a young voter is when she gets her twice weekly young virgin blood transfusions
my favourite thing that actually happened is hillary going on an interview to deny that she drinks baby blood
how could someone with such political savvy have lost an election
If she does this Chapo is going to get really good again
They'll blame Bernie for her loss even though he didn't run lol :flattened-bernie:
If he doesn't endorse her, it's his fault
If he does endorse her, he didn't do it full throatedly enough
If he doesn’t endorse her, it’s his fault
Including if he doesn't endorse her because he died of old age or something
"Even after death, the influence of Bernie Sanders can be felt in the Democratic Party."
Seriously, let's get Monica to run against her. It would make her so mad.
I feel like the Clintons have caused her enough extremely public trauma for several lifetimes.
Yeah I just feel like seeing a survivor take these sickos on, especially on their own turf, would be cathartic and maybe even healing for others.
Any of them could do it but Monica would be ideal. She had her name dragged through the mud by the media, they vilified her and in doing so they made her not only famous but infamous. Name recognition is the main thing Trump and Clinton had going for them in the primaries (at least as much as the primaries aren't rigged) and Monica has that.
Not just Clinton's victims; all of them have nothing to be ashamed of about what happened to them because they did nothing wrong, it's the perpetrators who should be ashamed of their actions. Having someone like them say so unequivocally could lead to some real change. The MeToo movement can be resurrected stronger than ever and all of the worst people in the country can be brought to justice.
Obviously doing this would be dangerous, maybe even suicidal because the :cia: killed :jfk-gaming: for far less but this time her death may trigger a revolution or maybe the edibles have kicked in and I'm just way too high.
its a cool idea for a satirical graphic novel I'll give you that
I mean it's not like she's actually going to run
she has no reason to do that besides spite, and that's not enough for her and for voters
Holy shit Hillary losing to Monica is even funnier than losing to Trump
What is it about liberals that makes them fundamentally incapable of learning?
They're totally submerged in a system and media environment that gives them no other viable alternatives.
As the liberals see it: The debate is between liberals and conservatives. The most left wing position is a social democracy like the Scandinavian countries. That's the absolute limit of the left. Anything further isn't really "left" due to horseshoe theory, it's just various types of authoritarianism and totalitarianism. Liberals care about the people inside the country and care about freedom but also want some government intervention (how much is necessary can be arbitrarily increased or decreased depending on what the media tells them the situation is like).
Liberals see conservatism - as a set of political ideas - as something that is different, but not foreign to their own belief system - you are supposed to be able to have a friendly, logical debate over these things as if things like healthcare expenditure and the military aren't things that actively kill people every single day. To them, the ideal conservatives don't want fascism, but as of 2016 they've had their minds melted by the increased influence of what they see as the completely uneducated hicks in the flyover states wresting a form of control over the Republican party. Why should they, who didn't even go to college, have any impact at all on the political system? They deserve all the poverty and immiseration they get for voting for their own oppressors in the form of the Republicans, and not their degree-bespeckled, means-testing saviors in the form of the Democrats! So they desperately cling to the idea that the "reasonable" Republicans who just a couple decades ago they hated can wrest control back of the party (e.g. the Lincoln Foundation) so they can start having reasonable, logical debates once again while the homeless die, opioids continue to ravage large swathes of the country, and foreigners get dronestriked.
Given that the treats keep flowing inwards from the global south and conditions remain fine - not necessarily good, but nothing worth considering actually risking your career over, much less your freedom, much less your life - there's no reason not to believe in this paradigm. They've been insulated from the consequences of the American lifestyle on poorer areas of their country and the rest of the world generally for decades. It's all just an idealist charade insulated from the rest of material reality to preoccupy and entertain people. If you become a "political" person, that rarely means that you go out and do stuff in the real world, it just means that you attempt to remember what you learned in history/political classes, read a few autobiographies, and go and argue with other people online about things to make yourself feel better about how meaningless your life is and burn off any excess steam that might have been put into real-world endeavours if they weren't allowed to be blasted out into the void of the internet. Purely affectation.
~edited to better describe the liberal view of conservatism
Liberals see most conservatives as “reasonable people” who don’t want fascism, it’s just a small minority
Disagree with this part, liberals see most conservatives as racist, uneducated hicks.
That's a good point. I think my initial idea was that the idea of conservatism is reasonable, just a different "vein" of thought that you can have friendly disagreements with and agreements with, rather than politics being the life-and-death contest between different classes that it really is in material reality, but then didn't really express that well. I'll edit to better convey it.
Great concise explanation. I know it's 2 full paragraphs long, but that's about as concise you can get it without it being totally misconstrued (I'm sure someone would misconstrue it anyway)
What haven't they learned? 2016 was a fluke where they got caught slippin', won't happen in 2024.
liberals, by definition, are just wealthy enough to be comfortable and not need the government (and therefore, leftism) AND they're also not rich enough to not care about lowering taxes. Libs are happy with the status quo, that's why liberal politicians don't promise anything, they run on america is already great and nothing will fundamentally change. Liberal politicians run on "if it aint broke, don't fix it", they have no reason to learn anything because there's nothing to learn. Hillary didn't do anything wrong, so there's no reason for her—or libs—to adjust. Even if we accept their version of reality, america still fucked up by letting putin rig the election, and that means something has to be different so they can't do that again. But since libs are incapable of changing, nothing can be done. Same with the January 6 they care about so much. They didn't actually do anything about preventing the next one in four years because that would necessitate admitting that something is wrong with the country, that checks and balances don't work. And they can't do that, they just want to go to brunch.
God it'll be so fucking funny if Hillary Clinton is the last president before the collapse and balkanization of the United States
Hillary runs against Trump again and by late September is on track to lose a second time, so the Dems do actual election fraud but with characteristic incompetence and the country balkanizes on the day of her inauguration
The lathe HAS to work for the better just once, please I'm begging you
The lathe of heaven is from an Ursula Le Guin novel. It lets you change the future. Chapo Trap House turned it into a running joke in reference to their uncanny ability to predict the future just by joking about what the stupidest outcome would be.
I'd say Technical Train Gang, but we'd have to have rails that have been maintained since the 1880s in order for that to be useful.
god i forgot it was literally called SHADOW, incredible timeline
If this happens I will attempt to :vote: in 2024 by just writing "HILLARY!" on every piece of paper I own and mailing it to "America". It really is her turn!
Chuds will then hold those pieces of paper up as proof of election fraud and it works.
Just kidding, she would have to win for that to happen.
scrawling "hillary" in pigeon's blood all over the ballot sheet in lieu of actually filling in bubbles
I will legitimately join her campaign if she runs again. How could you not? I want front row seats for when that train crashes and burns again :sicko-hexbear:
Remember the smug neoliberals all over Reddit and elsewhere that so firmly believed that HER TURN :maybe-later-kiddo: was in the bag?
There were shockwaves of "WE ELECTED A MEME" euphoria on /r/The_Donald and /r/KotakuInAction and /r/TumblrInAction and related :le-pol-face: parts of Reddit. They never quite stopped chasing that :thicc-trump: dragon since.
Can we petition the website admins to rename :thicc-trump: to :trumpy:
trumpty dumpty built a big wall
trumpty dumpty had a big fall
all of the repubs and all of the democrats
couldn't put trumpty in the white house again
what's the over/under on her actually having died in the past 2 years? I want side action on who's weekend at bernie'sing her: a bunch of rats or two children stacked one on top of another
Still waiting for the Queen to be announced dead, what happed witn that? Was it just a bit I fell for?
My mom even agreed with me when I said the queen has been dead for at least a month now
no clue but that sounds like qanon stuff that slipped out into normal people circles
impossible, her phylactery hasn't been shattered
you would have heard the screams of the damned escaping
I hope she lives to see the water wars along with the rest of us
Hilary/Trump 2024! The rematch of the century folks! It would actually be a gift. A gift from Satan. Can you ima how much more fun 2016 would have been unshackled from the last vestiges of electoral brainrot and hope for America to become less shitty? This is gonna be Gremlins 2
