• wifom [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Odds that Biden's nominations just get totally shut down from congress until he loses in 2024?

    Think I would actually die laughing if that happened

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      I like another possibility...

      Biden nominates Mike Dipshit. Dipshit is slightly center-right but the libs force themselves to pretend that he's good enough. His confirmation process totally surprises the libs. He cruises through. The senate vote is 64-36. After Dipshit's on the court Mitch McConnell has a hot mic moment where he can be heard saying "Dipshit is one of us," and he chuckles like a sick chicken.

      A few days later the libs are agitated. There's a rumor that the hot mic moment was staged and Dipshit is one of them. Then it's a couple weeks of breaking news. Dipshit hid his ties to an extremist libertarian group that compared taxes to the Holocaust. And Dipshit also hid his religious past. He had been a member of a extremist Christian church known for it's hardline anti-abortion views and its hatred of blacks, Jews, gays, and "other denigrates". Dipshit remains incommunicado. The libs are panicked and mad at Biden: "Who the fuck is Mike Dipshit really?"

      Biden has a particularly tumultuous press conference involving covid, Russia, the economy, among others. Biden is clearly a tired old man but he has enough common sense to deflect Dipshit questions promising "everything will be fine. Just fine." Biden leaves the podium and a reporter shouts out to the back of Biden's baby-like head "Did you even vet the guy?" Biden comes to a dead stop and freezes up. He turns around and marches right back to he podium and the mic.

      He's clearly angry and flustered. When he talks spittle clearly shoots out of his mouth: "Justice Dipshit is not a 'guy'. He is Justice Dipshit. Don't you forget it. He is an honorable man and we asked him many questions..." The press core smells blood in the water and for a torturous three minutes Biden tries to explain what "we asked him many questions" means.

      In the next few days it turns out that Biden's team didn't actually do a single thing to vet Dipshit. He met with them a few times and as he baldly lied about everything they accepted his answers as gospel. Dipshit breaks his silence in a short tweet by saying "Abortion is a sin and America is a white Christian nation." Libs go apeshit and the elections are a horrorshow for the dems. They get crushed in the worst bloodbath in history. There isn't even a close second.

      • Saint [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Libs go apeshit and the elections are a horrorshow for the dems. The get crushed in the worst bloodbath in history. There isn’t even a close second.

        More likely libs vote for dems because republicans would have nominated Bob Fascist instead, so they need to do harm reduction. It's still a horrorshow for the dems, but that's because the GOP media convince a bunch of swing voters that Mike Dipshit is a communist.

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Or he surprisingly picks someone who's actually quite decent... and then Manchin and Sinema block him.

        • inshallah2 [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          That doesn't make for a good story but it is certainly a strong possibility. And it would be pretty funny too.

    • 1heCream [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      The law of Cushbomb says that that would be very dumb, so it will 100% happen

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They probably pressured him into doing this now in anticipation of getting fucking owned this November

    • regul [any]
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      3 years ago

      The Republicans will (with assists from the usual dipshits) delay until 2022 when the Senate will be like 60-40 Republican and Biden will "have" to nominate Jeanine Pirro.

  • Woly [any]
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    3 years ago

    Sweet, we can lock in that third seat and maintain our... :very-smart: zero influence over the most powerful governing body in the country!

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Which, it cannot be said often enough or loudly enough, has no legal power determine whether laws are constitutional or not. That's just something everyone lets them do. The POTUS could ignore them at any time with no recourse or repercussions.

      • RION [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Is there somewhere I can read more about this?

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/about#:~:text=The%20best%2Dknown%20power%20of,Madison%20(1803)

          • RION [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            I mean the court ruling is technically a legal power, isn't it? Or is it a tautology where they gave themselves the power to give themselves the power

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              3 years ago

              They claimed to have the power based on deduction from the constitution. There's no document or law that actually says they have power. They very literally just said "We have this power" and everyone rolled with it. And the times when the President said "lul fuck you you have no power" the SCOTUS just flailed and squirmed because they do not, in fact, have any actual power.

              • SoyfaceKillah [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                There’s no document or law that actually says they have power

                ok but how is this any different from how people treat the "explicit" textual powers conveyed from a constitution, say? what document or law empowers the constitution? the document of the "Constitution" is not a source of talismanic power; it's simply one more touchstone in a sea of sources of law, others of which include the Court's decisions.

                all of these can be analytically ignored, the decisions of the Court or any reading of constitutional text. their power comes from the fact that they are, mostly, respected as law, but that need not be the case, just as american's no longer respect english parliment as sovereign.

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  You're right in the sense that it's all just handshake agreements and norms. I just think it's notworthy that the branch of government that nominally has veto powers on all laws doesn't actually derive that power from anything stated in the text, or intended by the people who designed the government. It's arguably the most consequential power of any branch of government and it's just something they decided they could do one day. Maybe on the same level as the President just deciding that he can declare wars unilaterally without input from Congress.

      • SoyfaceKillah [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        has no legal power determine whether laws are constitutional or not

        that's a big, almost sovereign citizen level, stretch. just because judicial review isn't explicitly conveyed to the Court in the plain text of the constitution, doesn't mean there's no basis in law. and even if marshall's arguments weren't good, just as a matter of positive law, yeah, the very fact that the entirety of american jurisprudence has the SC making these decisions, which are respected as binding and precedential, suggests that they are arbiters of consitutional law. the "bad man" listens to what the Court says, if we are being cleareyed and pragmatic about it.

        but sure, yeah, potus could ignore the SC, just as it could seize congress, or quarter troops in your home, or take your personal firearms, or whatever: any justification given would accepted, so long as everyone lets them do it, lol.

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      A few years ago, when I was just a dumb law student, I had a brief period where I would watch interviews with the SCOTUS judges, in particular the ones with Scalia and RBG. I figured they were both decent representatives of their different schools of thought, even if I didn't really agree with Scalia's general opinions. Then someone pointed out his ruling in 2000 Bush v. Gore, as well as his absolutely insane support for the CIA torture programs, and the indefinite detentions in Guantanamo, and it all just unraveled. So even prior to discovering Chapo and leftism in general, I had given up all my respect for judges and their institutions. Working in a law firm then solidified those feelings, because half those cases had no fucking point to them, and were just being filed because a rich asshole got angry at his neighbours or something.

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          she didn't like having to wear fancy dresses when she was the governor's wife, she prefers suits

          by the power of :liberalism:

          first gay trans woman of color justice

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      She turns it down, because she wants to be President first... and then gets completely owned in the election again.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    But there's an election coming up so soon. We should wait to hear the will of the people in November

  • RedundantClam [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Will the next justice be from Harvard or Yale? place your bets now. We know it won't be anywhere else, they already have their outsider with Barret being from the upstart university of Notre Dame.

  • pumpchilienthusiast [comrade/them, any]
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    3 years ago

    :popcorn-time: "sorry folks but we just couldnt get the senate to approve a replacement, looks like president trump will have to appoint him. remember to vote blue no matter who!" –democrats 2024

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      And then tens of thousands of t-shirts and mugs will be sold in honor of her being confirmed

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Replacing a judge when you control both houses is the literal bare minimum for governance. I give them 50/50 odds

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why don't we lathe something good...

    Biden learns resurrection technology. He gets the most preserved corpse he can find, Lenin's. Lenin convinces him to nominate him for Supreme Court, and also to drone the rest of the justices. In a 1-0 decision, it is decided that left-wing revolution is completely legal.