Americans are well known for loving "fair play" in sports, politics (this is mildly true from the Dems), and whatever else
politics (this is mildly true from the Dems)
It's not that they don't want to, they just don't have to because they agree with the other party. When anyone left of Clinton gets influence they'll gleefully cheat and backstab.
Right true for the party but I'm thinking more along the lines of voters
Edit: just to state my opinion more clearly, in my experience, Chinese people view cheating and fair play differently that we do in western cultures. Not better or worse, just different. I’m not saying all Chinese people cheat all the time. That’s ridiculous. But they do not seem to share the same cultural concept of fair play upon which the Olympics are founded. Can Chinese athletes Live up to the Olympic ideal? Certainly. Can American athletes cheat? Certainly.
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tbf it's not like doping is actually cheating. every elite athlete does it, if you get caught it's just because you did something dumb most of the time.
Aah, American sport founded injecting steroid, aah. Some of them even got caught decade later because the system tried it best to hide it, and even happening now. Pure projection.
Chinese people view cheating and fair play differently that we do in western cultures.
Lecturing Chinese people on cheating and fair play from atop land obtained by broken treaties.
Okay so what I'm hearing is we need to hold a do-over Olympics somewhere else and ban China from competing
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I'm not sure why the collective world allowed China to host the games in the first place. It's ridiculous. The CCP is the modern-day Soviet Union.
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In the Soviet Union, the outcome of the game was heralded and the players celebrated as heroes, with comparatively little attention given to the controversy surrounding the team’s victory.
"It's only a game, why do you have to be mad?"
i dunno shit about ice skating and obviously :reddit-logo: went straight to the racism, but on the face of it this does look pretty damn sus from that one skater (although pretty funny too lol)
whats the actual context here?
apparently right before the start of the gif, the Chinese skater got knocked off balance, and they went down too, right after the gif conveniently cuts out.
Apparently, the Canadian illegally change lane which trap Chinese skater arm which led to the accident. Some commenter point that out but got down votes to oblivion which you know, on storm front not popular to state the contradiction right now if not shite on China
ive been looking through all the very angry posts on the r/olympics sub (soooooo much racism), and cant find the longer video but from what i can gather from the occasional informed-looking post:
- there have been a number of decisions in the short track yesterday that various nationalists are up in arms about (especially south koreans)
- apparently short track has convoluted rules that are counter intuitive to outsiders and theres a long history of exactly this sort of judging dispute
- a lot of disqualifications came from actions that were separate from the actions in the videos that the redditors were posting
- the people who seem to know their shit suggest all the judgements were reasonable
- also at least one chinese skater got disqualified on a similarly close call
- and also none of the judges are chinese
but We Did It Reddit a bunch of people who never watched short track before in their lives discovered a nefarious ccp plot to cheat because the celestial brainpan is unable to cope with the loss of face from an athlete not winning
Hey can I interest you in a treaty? How about a cool loan? Maybe a little explosive freedom?
"During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence.
If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative.
If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom.
A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained.
What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum."
-Parenti
Love how people think real life is an action movie.
Like you're skating down like 30mph trying to go faster and not fuck up this turn, but then your Sherlock Holmes vision kicks in and you perfectly calculate how to toss a cone into another player to make them fall and then you perfectly calculate the perfect dodge so you don't possibly fall because they drop in front of you. Goddamn. Just built different I guess :china:
:parenti: "The Chinese are both masterful speedskaters able to calculate moves in a nanosecond yet must also rely on such trickery and so are weak". Mfw you got mask off ur fascist takes on :reddit-logo:
Storm shite main stream sub is fucking shite hole fill nato bot that you have to toe their line, if not you censor and down votes to oblivion, even some commenter said "not a big fan of see see pee, but that's move not intentional" also got downvotes to oblivion. They don't give two shite about the sport, only know how to shite on China.
Edit: I had to dig through a lot of shit comments to find something actually informative: https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/smtt26/sportsmanship_shown_by_the_chinese_skater_in_the/hvzxdvs/
I was also gonna post this but you beat me to it. It's a great comment:
As someone who has years of experience in short track speedskating in the US, I will provide my take (my 500m PB was a 44.3, and I am male. It's not incredible or anything, but it does take years of practice and a lot of skill). I think that it is very unlikely that Fan Kexin (the Chinese skater) hit the block into Alyson Charles (the Canadian skater in 2nd) on purpose.
Florence Brunelle, the 4th place Canadian skater, had just made a poor (and illegal) inside pass on Kexin, and she needed a place to pivot (speedskating term for putting your left hand on the ice in the corner for stability). With someone on your inside like that, it is hard to find a spot to pivot, and a block was in the way of where Kexin had to put her hand down. She saw/felt the block and had to quickly push it away, and it inadvertently hit Charles' skate.
Also, making Charles fall like that did not help Kexin at all. Because she had been forced to the outside by Brunelle, when Charles fell Kexin hit her and fell too (the clip posted by OP cuts right before this happens). In the end, Alyson Charles was advanced because she fell while in a qualifying position (top 2 advance), and Brunelle was disqualified for impeding. Kexin did not advance to the next round because she was not in a qualifying position when she fell. Kim Boutin (1st Canadian skater) and the Italian skater (in 5th at the time of this clip) also qualified for the next round because they had the top two spots at the end of the race. I think the judges made the right call on this one.
All this aside, though, what happened was still really crazy and funny.
Is that legal?
Also why are there fucking hockey pucks in a speed skating event? Why can't they just put down paint lines or tape?
also why are mayos so stupidly unable to imagine alternate scenarios? Clearly there's no other possible reason for her pushing that puck, it's not like your hand running into a puck would slow down your speed or anything, and that you'd flick it away just to stop that from happening
though if she actually intended for that to happen, then goddamn. that's some fucking PRECISION.
A new event where the goal is to cheat your way to victory and the points are awarded like gymnastics on the basis of difficulty of attempted cheat and whether you pulled it off
it would be like any other sport except 10x more exciting to watch
I can't help but notice that white supremacists always stereotype Asians nearly identically to how they see Jews. Is there a link besides "Jews and Chinese people sometimes celebrate Christmas together."?
they both fill the niche of the scheming other in the racist imaginary. a not-quite-human force that will stoop to any depths to destroy us.
A thing that comes to mind is the anti-Japanese panic of the 1980s, that was pretty similar to antisemitic conspiracies about "sneaky [ethnic group] are trying to take us over with their bankers", and of course due to the lack of any form of class consciousness, it very often veered into the racist. For an example, Cyberpunk as a genre often reached for it and minor stuff like the say the "You're fired" scene from Back to the Future 2.
Interestingly, there was a wave of Antisemitism in the 1980s in Japan with some bestseller books around 1985 which were basically the OG Protocols of the Elders of Zion repackaged for the Japanese public who probably didn't even know what Judaism was. The hostility between the US and Japan back then were basically explained by "It's the Jews trying to impede out rise to power" by the fash.
Eventually the economic bubble was brought down by Japanese capitalists doing capitalism (and thus inevitably face a crisis by inflating the real estate prices into the unaffordable for the sake of profit) and iirc the US and allies doing some imperialism in the form of currency shenanigans? I don't recall.
TL;DR - Capitalism promotes racism and other similar phenomena regardless if the countries are rich ("they're trying to force us into submission/outcompete us") or exploited ("they're uppity savages that need "education"")
I was just reading this thread, and it makes me more disgusted with the US than I already am. The behavior of the US in media and social media has just been appalling. What a sick fucking country and society we live in.
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EDIT: mood
lmaooooo
The moderator comment chain. reddit is such a shitshow
https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/smtt26/sportsmanship_shown_by_the_chinese_skater_in_the/hvz41uh/
Mod: asks question based on simple completely non-consequential misunderstanding
Bazingas: now's my chance to act smug on the internet!
Edit: Meanwhile, me: :so-true:
