When Chapo said the funniest outcome would be if nuclear armageddon occurred decades after both countries had abandoned any kind of ideological project and become the stupidest version of themselves, I think they may have lathed something terrible into existence
funny how "from your lips to god's ears" seems to apply to godless socialists/communists
I unironically know some fine crackheads who would legitimately make for better heads of state.
Lukashenko and Putin are bad people so we don't have to listen to them.
I mean, the United States or France have not transferred nuclear weapons to Poland or Lithuania.
So France and the United States were supposed to not do something harder to avoid this? It seems like a pretty blatant excuse for doing something you were already intending to do anyways.
I'm just commenting on the escalating situation, fam. Not interested in excusing or explaining away anyone's actions here.
The thing I want to see happen is guillotines and red banners in every major capital city, but that ain't happening.
Yet
Now schools are gonna have to add nuclear duck-and-cover drills alongside school shooter drills. Ah, nostalgia.
So, I'm just saying this without any knowledge of the logistics required and without any other info. But is there some chance that the ICBMs from the video a day or two ago being transported to Belarus? ASB also posted that a US official is claiming that Belarus is going to be sending troops into Ukraine, so is it possible that the nukes are being stationed as a deterrent so that Belarus isn't hit with an invasion of its own while its spending man power on assisting Russia in Ukraine?
I had heard that the official Russian line is that they were being moved for a parade, so there's that anyway
I can't confirm anything myself, but it's certainly an interesting train of thought
This might be to put more Russian short/intermediate range ballistic nukes within range of the EU :blob-no-thoughts:
Doesn't sound great.
Imo it could be an analogue of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Especially as negotiations start. Have an excuse to pull them out of Belarus in exchange for NATO backing off of Ukraine.
Of course we may just burn everything.
Kaliningrad is closer to Central Europe
But either way I don't think range was an issue
If it's a Doomsday scenario we're kinda all fucked
It's not range, it's travel distance and cost. The closer you are the cheaper missile you can use, and that means you can mass more of them.
Also, a launch from Kaliningrad gets to its target faster than a launch from the Urals, giving the target less time to react.
Is there literally any reason to do this though? Russia has ICBMs which could hit almost anywhere on the planet with a nuclear strike. What difference does the extra couple hundred miles into Belarus make?
Seems like it's an iron curtain arms race again. Nuclear nations don't get proxy warred. Lukashenko likely sees BY as the next possible location for fighting to break out and wants to re-arm to prevent the possibility of retaliatory invasion.
That being said we also live in bizarro world, so NATO could decide that they want to invade anyways and that's how nuclear holocaust begins.
"So what if they have nukes? They'd be crazy to use 'em!" :strangelove:
dont worry we have supersonic nuclear missile defense systems now nothing could go wrong :very-intelligent:
Yep, there's a reason :kim-drip: is still around and at almost complete peace
More nukes is a stronger deterrent. You can build more nuclear missiles if some of them are cheaper, and the easiest way to make them cheaper is to make them smaller and shorter range. Deploying nukes closer to the enemy means you can bring more of your stockpile into play, as the cheaper ones will now have more potential targets.
Another factor is the nuclear weapon reduction treaties only count ICBMs, plane dropped nukes, and SLBMs(submarine launches missiles). Nuclear tipped TBMs and SRBMs don't count, and while it's hard to tell because it's all kept secret, most newly built nukes are probably of the shorter ranged type as a result.
Edit: The rule of thumb is called the nuclear triad. That's one third ICBMs, one third SLBMs, and one third plane launched. The planes have become less relevant over time, and have mostly been replaced with shorter ranged missiles.
Comrades, I'm sorry. I have to come clean; this one was my fault. See, I had this monkey's paw that grants wishes, and I wished to have my student loans and medical debt erased...
Really? I have one too and I wished for a solution to global warming.
I had not considered nuclear winter at the time.
Fuck it, this news means that I’m gonna watch it now I’ve found it on YouTube. :doomer:
Edit: Christ, it starts on March 3rd :doomjak:
This movie fucking broke me and there wasn't even a significant risk of nuclear war when I watched it
Is it as good as 'the day after'? I'm tempted to give it a watch.
