It just feels difficult to have meaningful conversations on here sometimes. Like yes I dislike America, but I don't need to act like nothing good has ever come out of it. Maybe China is better than America, but I don't want Xi nuking American cities. I don't think war is suddenly cool and good because Ukraine has some nazis in it. Not everyone I disagree with is some bumbling mass of idiocy, a lot of times we just differ on certain core values.

  • Kanna [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    :xi-plz:

    But honestly tho, are we edgy? Yes, but we're leftists in a world in rapid decay with very few tools to change it. There aren't many places where we can be critical of all aspects of this world without massive push back or being outright banned. This is like the only place I've had meaningful discussions about Ukraine. Anywhere else devolves into fervent uncritical support, with the slightest critique being shut down. As others have said here, sometimes we really just need to let off some steam (and Xi, if you're listening, those nukes too pls)

    I've been here since the beginning and like it, so I'm a bit biased... but I think this site has a nice mix of edgy, detatched posting and meaningful discussion. There could probably be an effort on everyone's part to add to the discussion side of things. I do wonder what this site is like when visiting for the first time. We probably seem like a bunch of fucking weirdos lol

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Having tried to introduce a couple people to it, we are essentially incoherent to people who aren't at least past some aspect of 'Social Democracy is a moderate form of Fascism' which is deep in the leftist theoretical weeds. But then again, so are most online spaces at first. I'm just happy that cat-posting doesn't devolve into online baby talk like most places on the internet, its really one of my largest pet-peeves.

      • Quimby [any, any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        On the flipside, I've introduced a couple trans comrades to it who aren't very politically aware, but are very wary of online spaces generally. And they were so happy and relieved that we go hard, basically. It make it an obviously safe and welcoming space for them.

        • HodgePodge [love/loves]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Fuck this. Radical inclusion means not fucking tolerating “earnest posts” from uneducated bigots. If they genuinely want to learn, they’ll read through the site and self-crit. Fuck ‘em.

          :anarchy-trans:

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        . I’m just happy that cat-posting doesn’t devolve into online baby talk like most places on the internet, its really one of my largest pet-peeves.

        I hope you never find out about the outdoor cats struggle session, the first one on Hexbear I think.

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I have seen it referenced and referenced it myself, but I have never read the actual thread.

            • Nakoichi [he/him]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Or the pitbull struggle session I accidentally started with what I thought would be a lukewarm take in an effort post.

              • HodgePodge [love/loves]
                ·
                3 years ago

                Pitbulls good. Hating pit bulls based in racism.

                Look at this good doggo, I love him:

                :walter:

                • Nakoichi [he/him]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  That's gotta be a bull terrier. they look so funny but I love them

              • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
                ·
                3 years ago

                Beware effort posting, lest you be classified 'debate-bro'. Which is a great posting tendency to combat, btw. Didn't realize how much I liked it until I tried to go back to Reddit for abit.

      • HodgePodge [love/loves]
        ·
        3 years ago

        That’s fine. The rest of the western internet is full of chauvinists, transphobes, liberals, misogynists, and racists.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        It's not really that deep. The first book I read - Blackshirts and Reds - goes into that idea and I understood it perfectly fine.

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Idk where you are at, or all this sincere posting has fried my sarcasm-o-meter, but Micheal Parenti is incredibly obscure literature where I live.

          • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
            ·
            3 years ago

            You're right about that yeah, I've never heard it referenced outside of online stuff.

            In terms of theory though it's very digestible. That's what I meant by how deep it is in the leftist weeds. No previous Marxist reading required to understand that book.

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Oh yeah, I agree but I can't get people to read the fucking thing. Mostly because I can't get them to read at all, outside of fiction.

              • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
                ·
                3 years ago

                Definitely true. Most sorta left brained people I know watch Hasan and that's about as deep as they'll go.

                • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  Yeah, that's my point. Just reading a book puts me deep in theoretical weeds. We are at a point in time where it doesn't really matter if alot of the working class can read, and it's bad opsec to just, hold classes on this stuff if you attract any attention. Scary stuff. Hence the, you know, irony.

    • HotelWakanda [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      First they came for the jokes, and I said nothing because you all are cringe

      Then they came for the irony, and I was shot