Biden is neoliberal (neocon?) war criminal and has been since before he even became Vice President. But let's really not be the "actually Trump 2024 is good actually compared to Biden" people. It's not only a bad look, it doesn't reflect our beliefs or principles.
Maybe the couple posts I've seen about this is :fedposting: but Trump is also a fascist and was doing heinous shit with his power too. Not to mention he'd use the post to pogrom trans people. And all of nakedly fascist stuff he did to suppress the 2020 BLM movement (unmarked feds disappearing people in vans??? Thumping a bible on the steps of the capitol while Feds teargassed protestors???)
Fuck Biden and Fuck Trump and fuck anyone who tries to carry water for either of them.
Isn’t all of that just fatalism because we know that the liberals will lose, and not because communism is about to win in the US. I don’t think anyone here really likes Trump, but he (or someone worse) is coming back, and I think everyone can have a little schadenfreude at the liberals’ expense. It’s not as if they are about to be allowed to have too much else.
it'd be cool if Gloria de La Riva won but it's never going to happen for the structural reasons everyone got a proctologist's inside view of in 2020. I can enjoy Trump winning out of spite because what I feel won't change shit
Maybe you'll not enjoy Trump winning so much as you'll enjoy Biden/Kamala losing. No matter the result you will get to see some truly awful people lose, and there's nothing wrong with trying to enjoy that before whoever wins really gets going with whatever brand of awful makes us all sad again. The good thing is that even in the unlikely case that the liberals manage to win somehow you would get to see Trump lose again, which would also be kind of fun. The bad thing is that one of them will win.
This is what made the 2020 election night coverage so fun to watch. For maybe the first 12 hours after the polls closed it looked like Trump really could pull a win and it resulted in a collective meltdown throughout all of lib space that we got to sit back and enjoy.
Then when the tide turned it resulted in a collective meltdown in chud space that we got to sit back and enjoy again. It really was the best of both worlds for frustrated leftists looking to overdose on schadenfreude.
Exactly, and i'll guess neither of those were you being a huge fan of the winner. Have whatever fun you can before they start killing!
I feel schadenfreude AND I think Trump is at least a slightly worse outcome than Biden because I'm a radical centrist :centrist:
schadenfreude is one thing when he's pissing off libs over a tweet. I am calling out several users (probably :fedposting: ) who have made posts saying they hope Trump beats Biden or Kamala in 2024.
But that is just the thing. Shcadenfreude is all that will be available. I am not even American, but I want to see some liberals lose. I also want to see the Trump supporters lose. Whichever side loses is going to throw a fit and that will be funny. Then some absolute monster will be in charge of the US and lots of people will die because of that and it will not be funny. I can't change that. My dream of seeing both sides lose will not come true, but I will get to see one of them lose, and I will try to get whatever enjoyment I can out of that.
As long as we don't actually vote for Trump (which I doubt any of us would ever do), what does it matter what we hope for?