…and Libs still defend them.

        • cawsby [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Zelensky can say whatever he wants but Ukraine will eventually join NATO.

          So will Georgia.

            • cawsby [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              The capitalists want peace in Ukraine for the natural gas pipelines and to have the ports open for grain exports. Billions of profits for grain shipments, industrial exports, and natural gas is going up in smoke every month this war continues. Afghanistan had virtually no exports when NATO invaded. That is why no one cared that Western military powers turned it into a hellhole to test out every new weapon system under the sun.

              Russia is a paper tiger to NATO besides their nuclear triad. After months of Russian military failures against the formally 10th best ranked military in Europe there is no reason to prolong the war or use it to test out new weapon systems like NATO did even in Bosnia in the 1990's - remember when Clinton used "smartbombs" for weeks after the Serbs would have surrendered? Capitalists would rather have a stable Russia/Ukraine than to use Eastern Europe as a new playground for the military industrial complex.

                • cawsby [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Capitalists do not care if Ukraine has a Russian stooge or a starry-eyed NATO aspirant so long as the ports are open.

                  Wars are always about testing weapons. The longer they run, the more new weapon systems are tested. Afghanistan had the most first-time weapon system deployments since WWII.

  • Redcuban1959 [any]
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    2 years ago

    And the US and EU sends a bunch of weapons to both the polish army and azov

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Pretty funny, but you forgot to mention libs blame Russia for it

    • NomadicWarMachine [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Oh yes they will totally do that too.

      I think it will get increasingly fun to do I told you so’s thought. They’ll get to the point they embrace some kind of Solipsism to avoid cognitive dissonance. They’ll just go “you know what I am the main character in my own fan fic of Harry Potter, all life is an extension of my mind and Putin is the Voldemort I created for myself.”

          • BatCountryMusicFan [he/him]
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            edit-2
            2 years ago

            The earth will bake under a blanket of radioactive soot and all human civilization will be swept away by the boiling tides. Clinging to flotsam amid the ruins, the last communist mumbles imperceptibly to themselves through salt-cracked lips.

            "We told you so bro. We fucking told you so, man you look stupid right now, for real."

    • NomadicWarMachine [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      It comes from the Ursula LeGuin novel “The Lathe of Heaven” in which there’s a guy who, whatever dreams becomes reality so his therapist starts using hypnosis to manipulate him into dreaming what they want to happen. People use it now for when you predict something online as a joke and then it happens. It only seems to ever work for bad things.

      Infra materialism is an ideology in the video game Disco Elysium which argues that humanity’s collective conscious can manifest anything in reality if enough people focus on an idea long and hard enough.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Infra materialism is an ideology in the video game Disco Elysium which argues that humanity’s collective conscious can manifest anything in reality if enough people focus on an idea long and hard enough.

        Humanity being the orks in 40k all along makes sense.

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      Definitely read the novella it's based on, it's very fun and I was personally surprised I had never come across it until I looked up what the joke was about. It's a fast read too!

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      a lathe is a tool for manufacturing that works by spinning an object, usually wood but it can be other things, beneath a large blade or series of blades and sanders to make it the desired shape. As others have already said, it is reference to a LeGuinne novel about a man who can control reality unconsciously, and the lathe was selected as the metaphorical tool with which he shapes the heavens.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    <extremely annoying scolding lib voice> "WELL actually this 15 kilometer stretch on the south eastern part of Poland use to belong to Ukraine in 1276 Slava Ukraine!"

    • NomadicWarMachine [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Libs getting a migraine from trying to figure out which anti-communist ethno-nationalists to support.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    They state, in English, on live TV, and this is even broadcasted on the lib news channels, that their goal is to create a global ethnostate by violently eradicating all the lesser races and they have no intention of stopping with Russia, and the libs will still be like "but Putin!"