• GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!? BUT WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?!?

  • Notcontenttobequiet [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    As someone who was in high school for 9/11 and the Iraq War, my first conscious radicalization was being anti-Iraq war. Those were rough times and I specifically remember how alienating it felt to have that position. That said, there were a few outspoken politicians, protests, movement etc.

    Now, I just feel fucking gaslit. This conflict has genuinely caused me to question my own sanity. I'm constantly re-watching / reading and listening to media that discusses the role of USA and NATO in this conflict because it's just so buried. It has really broken my brain.

    I hope other people understand this feeling.

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        • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          trust yourself

          Another great point. We all have the tools within us to see bullshit. We are programmed from day one to trust a higher authority over our own intuition

    • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I do too. The bush administration was my jump off point too. I remember feeling like the Dems weren't as radical as I would like, but they were at least anti war, anti imperialism. At least on the ground. Obviously that was not the case in government. I was young, and I believed meeting once a week at the same street corner to silently hold a sign with a clever saying on it was really sticking it to the man. I mean It had to be, right? We were getting coal rolled, dirty looks, middle fingers, the works. I even went to a big rally in Chicago, like my hero, Abbie Hoffman. It felt so electric!

      Then life started getting more busy, and I wasn't able to attend as much. A couple years passed and I realized that all that letter writing and standing on a sidewalk didn't do anything except fill me with a false sense of accomplishment. Nothing changed. Nobody was held to account. Obama was elected, and I thought "here come the prison sentences!"

      Hope? More like "nope".

      I have considered myself a leftist since I was about 15, but I also took some of the bait on the trump/Mueller thing. But the more that came out, the more I realized that the whole country was a fish on the line, and corporate media was just stringing us along while they picked our pockets and made us fearful and anxious. I even got into a couple of heated political conversations with my wife during that time. Then I realized that nothing was more important than our relationship. Not being right in a theoretical argument about leftist politics, not getting her to hate all the right people, and learn all of this extremely online crap.

      We all were able to predict that the Biden presidency was going to be more lame than the Mueller report, so her and I voted third party in the national, and we voted the best we could locally.

      That's where it stands today. Life is too short to get too worked up over this shit. The Biden administration is objectively worse on most of the issues I care about, and there's no sign of Dems changing course. I don't even really believe in electoralism on that scale anyway.

      The difference between the democratic party of 2000 and the one we have now (even though it's largely the same people) really felt like a rug pull

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Glad to see Ukraine getting the weapons they need to cancel student loan debt. Weird how it ended up so far.

    • dung_Eater [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      now this is a strat i see working. asking congress to pass a bill to arm those with student loan debt. we can even sell it as much cheaper! 10k in relief or 1k in arms? think of the savings!

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    social democracy you know the thing :AyyyyyOC-big: :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

  • Vncredleader [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I keep getting Bernie texts about a rally for some social fascist running near me. I don't even know how to respond sarcastically to these monsters. THIS is what your progressives do? This is the best you fuckers can manage? I dont want to hear any fucking sympathy or defenses for the squad or their cohorts ever again.

    Not only would I never vote for these fuckers, I would support any left attempt to ruin future presidential campaigns by an AOC. No you wanna hang out with the democrats, then be a democrat and stop pretending you represent a challenge to their order. No left can exist in this country so long as these assholes can create any illusion about what they are

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beweuMOVmBI

    • Foolio [any]
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      2 years ago

      Tell them something like "fuck off Nazi lovers" and leave it at that.

  • ScotPilgrimVsTheLibs [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    For reference, it would have costed like 75% of that to end homelessness :agony-minion:

    Yeah, no homelessness in the so-called "greatest country on earth" AND it would be sweet revenge against the monsters that fucked up the economy in 2008 AND got away with it.

    "BuT sOmEoNe ElSe Is PaYiNg FoR iT". Do these idiots even know how much of a financial drain allowing homelessness IS!? Every homeless person costs taxpayers an average of 35k a year. There are roughly 550k homeless people in the US. Let's do some math.

    If ONE homeless person costs taxpayers as a whole 35,000 dollars a year. There are 550,000 homeless people, then that means homelessness costs roughly 19 BILLION dollars A YEAR. Ending homelessness will pay for itself in less than a decade. WTF, I thought our opponents were all prodigies in economics?

    • sourquincelog [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah but these defense contractors are EARNING their 40 billion by killing people. Guess we know what the homeless population's gotta start doing

  • pppp1000 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I never want to hear "The Squad gets criticism because of sexism" comments in here.

  • comi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Demilitarization of ukraine

    Soon ukraine will have higher defense spending than russia

    :putin-wink:

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :geordi-no: COVID testing and drug manufacturing

    :geordi-yes: Weapons shipments to Ukraine

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Bloody hell, (aside from all the usual defense contractor money funnel) they're making extra sure to prop up Ukraine so they can attack Trump in 2024 for Russiagate 2.0/not sending supplies aren't they? :stress:

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      One of Trump’s few based actions. Cutting off funds to the FSA (Al Qaeda/ISIS) & cutting off funds to the Ukrainian Nazi project. Oh and saluting a DPRK general.

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    AND THEY TELL US VOTING MATTERS :che-laugh: