I think I have to step away for some time too, it's not good to tap into that threatening tone for so long. I'll read it tomorrow maybe.
It's funny to me though how it always ends up at "I might be wrong, but YOU HURT MY FEELINGS!!!" as if harsh words arent the least they deserve.
It's always so funny how they belittle people they disagree with. "Hey now I'm a real human being you're being mean to" as if I don't know that. Real respectful of them.
Yeah, shitlibs gonna shitlib I guess. I was hoping there'd be something a little more interesting here.
I don't think they understand that actual genuine anger at their words is pretty rare, and out of frustration for wanting them to actually improve, usually we just dunk on people who say dumb shit (like that guy with the reddit avatar). So fucking narcissistic, thinking that we need to "play nice" and stop being mean just because they said so. Kind of wish I was playing lib bingo tonight, would've probably gotten one.
Their final signoff was a lib classic though. "You could've changed my mind if you had just coddled me and let me keep my toxic ideas intact, instead I'm going to refuse to self reflect because of how mean you were to me!"
I just skimmed the last of their final message and it's really funny.
On the one hand they will now log off, work thru their emotions and then do some self-crit (it seems).
On the other, if I'd just been nice and respectful to them, they would have changed their mind (which they also have said was never going to happen) or something? Wed have had a nice discussion? It seems like treating them harshly is the only thing that has any chance of having an effect, by their own admission, but I also messed up by treating them harshly, because they're sad now.
Who knows, I've been there myself.
Yeah, being harsh like this sucks for them, it's not nice to try and be friendly and have people get mad at the things you say, it hurts, but it isn't done out of genuine hatred, just anger at what they are saying, and hope that they improve in the future. I do think this whole conversation will spark a big change in their behaviour going forward, hopefully a positive one, or at least helps them on the way to one. They seemed more close to proper self-crit than most libs I've seen, so I hope they reflect on this. Probably good that it's stopping now, if I had kept going, it wouldn't be out of a desire to see them improve, but it would just be bullying them. I should probably self-crit a bit myself and work on improving my self control.
I meant more that it would no longer be bullying them to change their ways, but just mocking them to be a smug douchebag, being cruel for cruelty's sake. That's never a good place to be in.
Maybe there's a little daylight between "bullying" by being firm and telling people they should be killed - and then acting incredulous that they thought you meant it.
I'm not incredulous that they thought I meant that they should get beat up, because I did mean it.
I'm "acting incredulous" about the fact that they behave in a shitty way, say shitty things, and are then surprised when people are mean to them. I "act incredulous" about the fact that they concede points, but since I made them sad, that's all that matters.
I think I have to step away for some time too, it's not good to tap into that threatening tone for so long. I'll read it tomorrow maybe.
It's funny to me though how it always ends up at "I might be wrong, but YOU HURT MY FEELINGS!!!" as if harsh words arent the least they deserve.
It's always so funny how they belittle people they disagree with. "Hey now I'm a real human being you're being mean to" as if I don't know that. Real respectful of them.
Yeah, shitlibs gonna shitlib I guess. I was hoping there'd be something a little more interesting here.
I don't think they understand that actual genuine anger at their words is pretty rare, and out of frustration for wanting them to actually improve, usually we just dunk on people who say dumb shit (like that guy with the reddit avatar). So fucking narcissistic, thinking that we need to "play nice" and stop being mean just because they said so. Kind of wish I was playing lib bingo tonight, would've probably gotten one.
Their final signoff was a lib classic though. "You could've changed my mind if you had just coddled me and let me keep my toxic ideas intact, instead I'm going to refuse to self reflect because of how mean you were to me!"
I just skimmed the last of their final message and it's really funny.
On the one hand they will now log off, work thru their emotions and then do some self-crit (it seems).
On the other, if I'd just been nice and respectful to them, they would have changed their mind (which they also have said was never going to happen) or something? Wed have had a nice discussion? It seems like treating them harshly is the only thing that has any chance of having an effect, by their own admission, but I also messed up by treating them harshly, because they're sad now.
Who knows, I've been there myself.
Anyway good night, sleep tite
Yeah, being harsh like this sucks for them, it's not nice to try and be friendly and have people get mad at the things you say, it hurts, but it isn't done out of genuine hatred, just anger at what they are saying, and hope that they improve in the future. I do think this whole conversation will spark a big change in their behaviour going forward, hopefully a positive one, or at least helps them on the way to one. They seemed more close to proper self-crit than most libs I've seen, so I hope they reflect on this. Probably good that it's stopping now, if I had kept going, it wouldn't be out of a desire to see them improve, but it would just be bullying them. I should probably self-crit a bit myself and work on improving my self control.
Good night!
Sometimes bullying is all that works. That is sort of why hexbear got its reputation.
I meant more that it would no longer be bullying them to change their ways, but just mocking them to be a smug douchebag, being cruel for cruelty's sake. That's never a good place to be in.
Maybe there's a little daylight between "bullying" by being firm and telling people they should be killed - and then acting incredulous that they thought you meant it.
I'm not incredulous that they thought I meant that they should get beat up, because I did mean it.
I'm "acting incredulous" about the fact that they behave in a shitty way, say shitty things, and are then surprised when people are mean to them. I "act incredulous" about the fact that they concede points, but since I made them sad, that's all that matters.
Yea, would punch them in real life
Not sorry