In a thread, a few days ago, perhaps a week or two in fact, there was a discussion about helping people in natural disasters, and when I said I wouldn't help someone with a swastika, flying a confederate flag, people surprisingly called me out on that, saying they became socialists to help people, and not to cause more misery and so on. The main argument was potentially turning an enemy into a friend, but there obviously was the "moral" argument of helping your neighbour. I didn't think much of it, and went on with my life.

However, a few days later, I listened to "It could happen here", and posted about it. The podcast is basically a frightening thought experiment about the eventuality of a second american civil war, and it made me doubt a few things I took for granted. It also makes me realize I'm not even able to feel as a morally decent person anymore. I keep de-humanizing people, be it billionaires, nazis, landlords or even libs, I have grown bitter, angry and jaded towards normies, I genuinely despise a good chunk of them, and a part of me would absolutely love to see them get what they deserve.

And I hate it. I have the feeling to be wrong, that it is wrong to want people to be hanged or to get the wall, but it has almost become a reflex at this point. To make things even more complicated, the podcast reminded me of something : I could've been one of these guys. I could've become a fascist, had things gone horribly wrong, which almost did happen. It reminds me that these guys are humans, just like me. Flawed, stupid, credulous, miserable but still human. So here's the fucking question : am I wrong for thinking violence is the only solution to save ourselves from the coming horror ? What do these people deserve should we come out on top ? Am I a horrible person for hating libs and normies with my guts, even more than I hate reactionaries ?

And yes, I know I'm a fucking edgelord, but I'm honest with it; and I genuinely wish to hear your thoughts on this, because I am sure as hell that I'm not the only one having doubts on the question of mercy.

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I have a profound distrust of any argument that boils down to "the ends justify the means." There's no way to be sure of what the ends actually will be--the law of unintended consequences will bite you in the ass every time. So then you're left with the terrible thing you've done (while justifying it to yourself because your intentions are pure) but the terrible action you've taken has caused horrible consequences you couldn't have predicted.

    In other words, I'm pro mercy. But I'm also a Mennonite, so I don't expect everybody here to agree with me on that.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      In the case of armed conflict, fascists will not only kill you, but they will kill your whole family. Read the history of partisan resistance in Europe. If one fascist was killed they'd publicly execute 10 innocent people in reprisals. Violence might make you uncomfy, but personally, if it means stopping genocide and mass slaughter of innocents, I'd burn every fascist alive if I had to.