Yes. it seems bizarre that when the topic of outdoor housecats comes up, people talk about the handful of birds a year a cat kills like it has any relevance at all to the suburb that has already been devastated. The figure that is usually thrown around (~2 billion birds killed by cats a year) includes feral and stray cats, so really all it does is highlight the importance of spay and neutering.
I hear what you're saying, but I'm not sure if I understand what you're getting at. Like, you think they should be spayed\neutered but allowed to be outside?
I feel the need to point out, I'm not disagreeing, just trying to be sure about what you mean.
Essentially, yes. A typical housecat isn't a good hunter, anyway, and I don't think animals are fit to live inside. Could you imagine never going outside? better to not have one in the first place.
We estimate that free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3–4.0 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals annually, and that un-owned cats cause the majority of this mortality.
un-owned cats cause the majority of this mortality.
Pets are good for human health and can have educational uses as well. Thats more importent than some birds.
The decrease in bird population is much more related to insecticides and the suburbs usually kill or drive out all natural predators who would also kill birds.
just because something is good for human health doesn't give humans the right to destroy the ecosystem. companion animals are fine but it's your responsibility to make sure they're not harming the ecosystem you share with billions of other lives.
Yeah, I agree with that. I'm not knowledgeable enough to speak on the exact effect it has on the environment or anything, but definitely spay and neuter. Every animal I've had has come from the pound, spayed neutered, etc.
cus it's not about the enviroment, it's just people who hate cats. these same people were saying it should be okay to kill your neighbors cat cus it walked in your yard. now they're spreading the entirely unscientific idea that cats are some massive bird killer, even though every actual study done with peer review has shown they're not a problem (other than on islands or aus/nz, different ecosystem there)
For the environment and shit you mean?
Yes. it seems bizarre that when the topic of outdoor housecats comes up, people talk about the handful of birds a year a cat kills like it has any relevance at all to the suburb that has already been devastated. The figure that is usually thrown around (~2 billion birds killed by cats a year) includes feral and stray cats, so really all it does is highlight the importance of spay and neutering.
I hear what you're saying, but I'm not sure if I understand what you're getting at. Like, you think they should be spayed\neutered but allowed to be outside?
I feel the need to point out, I'm not disagreeing, just trying to be sure about what you mean.
Essentially, yes. A typical housecat isn't a good hunter, anyway, and I don't think animals are fit to live inside. Could you imagine never going outside? better to not have one in the first place.
Completely and demonstrably wrong.
Yea.. this person has never owned a cat.
ok, demonstrate it
No, flat earther, I will not waste my time to Google shit for you when it is the first thing that will pop up when you search.
If you actually cared about correcting yourself and not just taking the opposing side you'd have looked it up already.
Yes, feral cats.
Additionally, outdoor cats are just feral cats in function, except someone is sponsoring their invasive activities.
That's 90% of pets
Pets are good for human health and can have educational uses as well. Thats more importent than some birds. The decrease in bird population is much more related to insecticides and the suburbs usually kill or drive out all natural predators who would also kill birds.
You can have a cat and not let it destroy local ecosystems for funsies.
just because something is good for human health doesn't give humans the right to destroy the ecosystem. companion animals are fine but it's your responsibility to make sure they're not harming the ecosystem you share with billions of other lives.
Keep your cat inside you fucking liberal.
Your cat doesn't need to kill animals for human health.
We put our cat out on a leash and let him do his thing in the yard. Cats absolutely kill wild birds.
Yeah, I agree with that. I'm not knowledgeable enough to speak on the exact effect it has on the environment or anything, but definitely spay and neuter. Every animal I've had has come from the pound, spayed neutered, etc.
The human can be better for the ecosystem by keeping the cat inside.
cus it's not about the enviroment, it's just people who hate cats. these same people were saying it should be okay to kill your neighbors cat cus it walked in your yard. now they're spreading the entirely unscientific idea that cats are some massive bird killer, even though every actual study done with peer review has shown they're not a problem (other than on islands or aus/nz, different ecosystem there)
Science isn't a conspiracy to denigrate cats.