• LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    2 years ago

    they also banned t-shirts and soccer shorts, in Texas. What the fuck.


    A list of unacceptable clothing includes.

    Shirts with visible stripes, checks, lettering, wording, or other designs.

    Sleeveless shirts

    Thermal type shirts.

    T-shirts.

    Zippered shirts or blouses.

    Hooded sweatshirts or outerwear.

    Baggy-style legged slacks.

    Holes in clothing.

    Cargo or Carpenter-style pants.

    Soccer or boxer style shorts, wind shorts/pants, athletic shorts/pants, sweat shorts/pants, spandex

    Dresses.

    Overall pants, overall shorts, overall jumpers, and coveralls.

    Leather, suede, vinyl, corduroy, and denim materials; brads or studs.

    Students also face consequences for unnatural hair coloring and are required to keep themselves groomed.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Training kids for the workforce by banning everything worn by trade, STEM, service, and gig workers

    • NuraShiny [any]
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      2 years ago

      So...I guess the students gotta be naked? What the fuck is even left?

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Okay so you have to dress like a fucking Mormon missionary at all times? Fuck you Texas. I hope all those responsible for this backwards policy reaps the fucking whirlwind.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        2 years ago

        can't even fucking wear jeans. It's denim material. I don't know what workplace they're supposed to be preparing these kids for

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      burka time, unironically, though that might be considered outerwear lmao

    • AresUII [des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      If you're pre-birth you're fine, if you're pre-school you're fucked, if you're in school you're baked

    • Ideology [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      At this point they might as well institute Japanese style uniforms and make the parents pay for it in a similar fashion.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        2 years ago

        since it's Texas the uniforms would probably be more "German-style" if you know what I mean

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Is there a list of things you can wear. Like I feel my parents would've enrolled me to another school purely because they couldn't think of what clothes to buy me for school, lmao.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Thermal type shirts??? So, very basic long sleeve shirts? I literally don’t think I could dress myself following this list what in the fuck. That list is all the clothing

    • somename [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah lol, I think they took this past the level of what even the shitty parts of Texas would stand. Like they banned all the clothes that even Conservatives wear. Amazing.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, it really started with Columbine. Before Columbine, you mostly had moral panics involving Satanists abducting kids or putting razor blades in Halloween candy, but nothing truly substantial.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Satanists abducting kids

          That got really, really bad in parts of the US.

        • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          Unfortunately The ones i knew where all very damaged kids that constantly did harm to their friends.

          The school straight up disappeared a few of them to bd school after Columbine.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Most of my goth kids were nice Mormons, and the rest were obviously gay in retrospect but no one talked about it in the in the late 90s/early 00s.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Wait wait

      You call the cops when CHILDREN have fights?

      In the UK 30 kids form a circle and shout FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT and then they kick the crap out of each and get detention then go home?

      What the fuck why are the police involved? They're children!

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        We arrest kids and send them to prison when they have fights. After the Colomubine shootings in 99 the official solution was to have a cop in every school. They called them a "School Resource Officer". Supposedly they were going to somehow prevent violence, but what they actually did was terrorize the kids, bring in drug dogs to arrest everyone suspected of having pot on them, criminalize minor discipline issues, and generally do cop shit.

        In the 20+ years since school cops have never stopped a school shooting, but they have sent more than a million children to prison, plus god knows how many more to jail or on charges that didn't result in a prison term.

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          After the Colomubine shootings in 99 the official solution was to have a cop in every school. They called them a “School Resource Officer”.

          We do that in Canada too. It's dumb as fuck.

    • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Sometimes I get a little jealous of people who got to experience life before 9/11. I mean, I was 11 when it happened, but I didn't get to live life as a teenager or young adult in that period. Not being tracked in everything you do, school administrations treating all of their students as potential criminals, the TSA, Homeland Security, all the extreme nationalism.

      I know Columbine really got the ball rolling in treating schools like prisons, but 9/11 made the US a super shitty place to live.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Shit got turbocharged after 9/11, the next major education reform needs to be the "all children chill the fuck out" bill - free food at schools three times daily including weekends, big time after school program funding, equalizing funding between schools so our most heavily populated ones aren't the most poorly funded, paying staff and especially teachers better so that the profession is more attractive and gets more people and more talent, eliminating standardized tests as a requirement for college admissions and frankly eliminating grades as a measure of school achievement. People hate me for this one but we also have to shorten up summer break - spread those days off throughout the year if you want to keep them, but there's no reason to have a multi-month gap where most kids forget a ton of shit and have to relearn it the next year.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        free food at schools three times daily

        yeah, give them like an hour long lunch break like they do in France

        eliminating standardized tests as a requirement for college admissions and frankly eliminating grades as a measure of school achievement.

        hell yes

        I don't know about getting rid of Summer break. I'd agree with having more smaller vacations throughout the year though. It's not like they're teaching very hard in school anyways, nobody's forgetting anything important over the Summer vacation -- least of all anything they can't just pick up again in a single class session.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I had uniforms up until like 11th grade, then they decided fuck it and just dropped it lol

      I grew up in post 9/11 and even then I sensed something was wrong with the American psyche. I didn't have the theory or words to really put it into words back then, but it truly felt like being in a haunted house - paying a bunch of money to be in a place where everything looks like they're supposed to harm you, then when something does eventually harm you, the people in charge can't be held liable.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I’m so glad grew up in the pre-9/11 era. Something really snapped, you could feel it, and it’s hard to explain after 20 years when its the water you swim in. There was some breathing room to be young, make mistakes.

      I think that was more Columbine than 9/11, although the ability to transpose all the social anxiety from Suburban White Failson to Brown Kid With Weird Last Name certainly sped things up.

      But I think this shift has been coming much longer, as we have transitioned from SuccDem capitalist welfare state to Full Blown Fascist Hellscale. Like, the 80s Crime Wave + Reagan brain worms put us on this track. And 40 years later, Boomers don't just see Brown People as the enemy. Everyone under 60 is terrifying, so they all need to be locked up.

      Part of me thinks this is just the cresting of a huge wave. We're just another ten years away from the Olds finally losing their grip and a backlash whiplashing the nation back in line with the rest of the world. But another part of me thinks we're here to stay. That this generation normalized the insanity of the 80s and I'll never see a country capable of even 60s era radicalism

  • VHS [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    hate to break it to them, but colored hair is definitely in the workforce

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Like half of our sales team has brightly colored hair and their base pay is 6 figures

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    idk the waitress im friends with wears short dresses for better tips

    state of our society

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The older I get the less sense dress codes make to me. Just let kids be kids, man.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Strict dress codes is just taking the worst of school uniforms (less outlet for self-expression, not comfortable in general) and wearing your own clothes (highlights class divide, cultivates consumerism by forcing students to chase fashion trends).

    • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Same. Let people express themselves how they want, it literally has no bearing on you. They're still coming to school, they're doing the work, they're not exhibiting dangerous behavior. Let them have purple hair or wear a band tee.

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      There should be no dress codes, period

      People should be allowed to attend formal events as long as they're clothed

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Schools should have uniforms until the capitalist system has been fully deprecated.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        From what I've heard Uniforms are the least-bullshit way to handle clothes. But even then you run in to shit with uniforms being expensive for poor families. I guess we'll just have to abolish poverty :mao-aggro-shining:

  • Flinch [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I feel like if we're gonna let kids get blasted in math class, the least we can do is let them be comfortable

  • MKMuatra [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Is this not common? My public middle and high school had a strict dress code which basically just amounted to 'stop being sexy' with a hearty amount of racism too

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      in czechia i feel like it was way more lax. went to school there for a year or two

      but in america shit was wild. like, grown ass men leering at little girls and demanding they go to the lost and found hamper to get different clothes on immediately. like, 10 year olds

      • MKMuatra [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        grown ass men leering at little girls

        CA Sixth grade P.E. I went to rest in the shade and ig the two teachers didn't notice cus they didn't stop talking about how fuckable all my friends were. Fuck now that I think about it this kinda shit was so common I couldn't deal with men for ages

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          :yikes-3:

          i fucking hated high school in america was the fucking worst. so much sexual violence

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There aren't enough Yikes in the world for me to convey how absolutely fucked this is. The only thing grosser than pubescent kids are the people who want to fuck them. God. Damn. America.

        • thisismyrealname [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          there was a assistant coach or something in my 7th grade PE class who always stayed in the boys locker room during changing

          never said anything, just stood there

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        In South Africa you wear uniforms at school, but on civies day (allowed to wear normal clothes for a day) shit would get horrible like that as well. I remember being pulled out of assembly for wearing jeans with holes. Girls got straight up discriminated against, if you hit puberty you basically couldn't wear any kind of normal t shirt, vest, etc without some fucked up teacher forcing them to change.

        Also had the blessing/curse to get a scholarship to an all boys boarding high school (think of half your classmates being a version of Elon Musk) and holy shit that was fucked up with regards to teacher-student stuff. Thinking about it now is just be🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮.

      • iwillavengeyoufather [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        i had a teacher say he liked the dress code because when he taught at a school without a dresscode he would get distracted by girls' cleavage :yikes-2:

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          thats when you throw the whole man out like spoiled milk

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They're pretty common, but at least in the schools I went to it only amounted to "no mini skirts" and if you were just wearing everyday clothes like a tshirt and shorts it was fine.

    • NuraShiny [any]
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      2 years ago

      This is the opposite of common in many countries. My school had no official dress code at all.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It's usually either "just cover your whole torso and it's fine" or "literally a uniform." This case is bizarre because it's basically "we banned fucking everything, figure out what the uniform is by process of elimination"

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I had to wear a shitty uniform at school lol.

    Very common outside of the USA I think. I don't know really. Basically every school in South Africa, you wear a uniform

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Do they also fit like shit over there? And do they make you wear ties?

        I had to wear a tie year round at high school. Summer was horrendous

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Depends, but yes, the more expensive schools generally have better fitting but stupider uniforms like straw boaters.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            straw boaters.

            Why did you have to remind me of the existence of these things, I had to wear on certain occasions

            :agony-deep:

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              On the plus side, they were so impractical they introduced me to collecting 19th century hatpins. Love to have 9 inches of dagger in my hair.

          • Spike [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            These kinds of school uniforms were the best and should be the standard. I'm lucky that I never went to a school that made you wear blazers, ties, stupid hats etc. I think I would have hated school so much more simply from wearing that shit. The cool thing about those uniforms was how easy it was to get second hand/hand-me-downs clothes. Made it much easier to fit in.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Private schools make you wear ties, public schools have a polo shirt, and pants/skirts that have to be a colour, and closed shoes.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            That sounds alright. In South Africa it's basically a button up short sleeved shirt and shorts with long socks and leather shoes in the summer, and in winter a long sleeved shirt and pants, with some jackets or blazers and ties. Girls get dresses and skirts, with a different one for summer and winter, along with thick stockings for the winter.

            The more traditional schools add more silly bullshit.

  • Yeat [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    slight off topic rant about my work’s dress code that this reminded me of, everyone who doesn’t have a complete full beard or mustache has to shave and they have weird requirements like your mustache has to be connected to your beard, etc., but i usually shave once a week or two just because that’s what looks good for me so that’s annoying but anyways if i forget to shave one day or even if i start to get a 5 o’clock shadow near the end of my shift i will get absolutely HARASSED by my managers asking me questions about how often i shave, how i shave, and even threaten to make me shave with the fucking razor in the bathroom?? and also my hair’s a little longer than the average guy’s, it’s not super long just some flow you know, the back of my hair just touches the collar of my shirt and the other day one of my managers continuously asked me if i considered trimming it, it’s not like i’m unhygienic it’s clean and well kept literally just a centimeter or two “too long” for our precious corporate overlords. and it’s not like i work in food service or something where that’d be an issue or anything i work at a CARWASH (not gonna dox myself super hard here though)

    but yeah to bring my rant back around to the topic at hand, this is absolutely the direction companies are going in as far as strict control over one’s personal appearance so this doesn’t suprise me at all, especially giving that in america the purpose of school IS to prepare you for work (needless busy work, school times being close to a 9-5, teaching productivity, etc) it’s not about knowledge as much as it’s about conditioning children to be good worker bees when they grow older. from a business standpoint yeah i’ll concede and say it would make sense to not want your employees to be covered in dirt and filth especially if they have to deal with customers, but having such strict control on their clothes, hair, and other parts of a person’s appearance just feels cruel. the average person does not care that much about how some service worker looks, it’s controlling just because they can be.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      true fact at my last job they asked me about my long hair and beard and I told them it was against my religion to cut either of them and it never came up again. It's been over two years since I've gotten trimmed or shaved lmao.