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  • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Westworld was like, how about we take out the slow burning self discovery and incredibly rich world building that everyone loved from the first season, and fill it with shitty YA sci fi writing and plot structure.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      What if instead of internal battles about the nature of your existence this same character did one liners and stabbed people with a katana?

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The robots owning all the rich fucks was some of the most satisfying TV I ever saw

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      In season 2 right? I feel like I only remember bits of this show. Maybe I haven't gotten there yet, I'm on season 4 episode 1 and I don't really remember anything from season 3 except the writing feeling super off.

  • Elon_Musk [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Just re-do the first season but do it in Samurai World, then do it again in Roman World & Future World etc.

    Also, much much more naked snake lady

    • Hawke [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Honestly when that last season 1 episode showed glimpses I was hoping it would go that way. Guess it's good that I forgot about the show after season 1.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Really love how this new season just fucking walks over what should be a extensive examination of a global revolt against techbros using a robot god machine to control lives and perform fucking eugenics. Like the previous season ends with a revolution and then this new one is just "yeeaaaahhh it's done and now everyone is back to regular work and the main character is doing their job as a lineman again" like wtf? Are liberal writers afraid of writing about the death of capital and neoliberalism?

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Are liberal writers afraid of writing about the death of capital and neoliberalism?

      Something something easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. :zizek:

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Are liberal writers afraid of writing about the death of capital and neoliberalism?

      Not afraid, entirely uncapable.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Are liberal writers afraid of writing about the death of capital and neoliberalism?

      Sometimes I think its just about the budget. Doing a bunch of scenes in board rooms and apartment hallways is just cheaper than doing big sweeping shots of large crowds tearing down the scenery.

      But it also feels like TV shows are afraid to write outside the End Of History framework, yes.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah what? The last season ends with everything exploding and the new one starts with ..... Work

    • train
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      1 year ago

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  • Leather_Rat [undecided]
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    2 years ago

    Show went down the shitter after S1. But shoutouts to my man Peter Mullan (James Delos) - avowed Marxist and supporter of Palestine.

      • Leather_Rat [undecided]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, he talks about it a lot in relation to his life and work with Ken Loach. He is a huge Celtic supporter and has great stories about being in the Jungle at Parkhead, chanting 'from the river to the sea' with the other fans.

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    2 years ago

    i'm glad to hear that my general policy of not watching shows past the end of the first season continues to be the correct take :meow-popcorn:

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        My problem with Black Sails is that it's like someone upscaled the cutscenes to a missing Treasure Island DLC for AC4 and released it as a TV show.

        Also no Stede Bonnet. I love my useless divorced dad pirate.

  • Yurt_Owl
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    2 years ago

    As far as im concerned the show ended at season 1 in my head canon.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      One of the best seasons of television I've ever seen, couldn't even get through the first episode of the second season. They really know how to crash a train over there at HBO

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I enjoyed chunks of S2 and I thought the take on Capitalist Realism in S3 was solid, even if the plot meandered and stumbled. S3 had what could have been a fun subplot with

      spoiler

      Different Dolores iterations diverging in personality and goals, even as the story posits a single massive super-intelligence capable of dictating the behaviors of much of society.

      But the need to make the show character driven, while supporting a wider and wider cast, ultimately dragged down the competing narratives as they were afforded too little time to advance and resolve.

      I'm curious to see what the hook is for S4. But it sounds grim.

    • D61 [any]
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      2 years ago

      We talking the movie from the, what, 70's? (Don't forget the sequel, its not too bad)

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Honestly glad I saw the backlash against the show before watching past the second episode lol. I don't wanna waste my time again like with GOT

  • JuanGLADIO [any]
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    2 years ago

    The last episode was great in what it unveiled and is what seasons 2 & 3 we’re building towards.

  • Mindfury [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I agree, but it's getting a bit weirder than that now and i'm still on the border of hating it but maybe coming around

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    As of the most recent ep, they're seeming speedrunning re-doing season 1 in terms of structure, and season 2 in terms of antagonist motivation but in reverse?

    • There's a new park and they fucking speedran through it in two episodes
    • Host-Charlotte Hale achieved William's goal of transposing humans into hosts but for the opposite reason, as she's killing off humans and body-snatchers replacing them instead of enabling humans to live forever via inordinate wealth
    • Maeve is the host chosen one but Hale updated the neo hosts so she's no longer a god and gets merked lol
    • Bernard is re-running the maze but is simulating every possible outcome in his head for fucking years
    • There are once again two timelines being shown simultaneously, just like season 1, Bernard is in the future and Aaron Paul got bodysnatched like 8 fucking years ago lmaoooo

    In conclusion, maybe it's improving but it's started poorly