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  • Azarova [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    OnlyFans, the subscriber content platform that is most well known for adult content, allegedly took drastic measures in 2018 to stop models and entertainers who use its service promoting from rival platforms that also feature their content.

    the website bribed Meta to put over 20,000 names and social media accounts on a watch list managed by the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism

    :what-the-hell:

    • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      real reassuring to know meta can just put anyone on a watchlist without oversight or accountability

      unless they take bribes to put twenty fucking thousand people at once on there, then maybe something might happen

      what the hell is going on over there

      • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        love to be simultaneously shadowbanned from all major social media except :reddit-logo: with no notification or recourse

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Didn't they try ban penetrative sex and wanted to go softcore only? And had problems with monetisation along with all the mindgeek sites because they were refusing to remove illegal content? I know all the mindgeek sites went verified content creator only and that pissed off all the incels.

        Really weird company

        • Azarova [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          They did a 180 on that after a few weeks, probably led to a not insignificant exodus to their competitors.

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      :yikes-1::yikes-3:

      calling OnlyFans a “pimp” is really not accurate and that term perpetuates so much ongoing misconceptions about sex work.

      OnlyFans is a garbage capitalist corporation that is behaving like a garbage capitalist corporation. I hope whoever did this at both companies gets the fucking wall.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Kind of frustrating that they went with an image that makes this article difficult to share with others.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      yeah, i don't want to send this to people only to make them go "eeeeeeeeew, gross, she has a rick & morty plushy"

    • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
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      2 years ago

      Trying to imagine the type of person who would support sex work but also be offended by this image.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I know it's stupid but I could share the text of this article 100% fine with a lot of people but can not share that image because it's definitely one people would consider inappropriate in both the workplace or around children. I can't put this article in any community where children might be present and I can't show this to anyone in spaces with extended links to coworkers. The image and the image alone presents a barrier to sharing.

        • x8vmte4nhf7joq7p [any]
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          2 years ago

          You could use this one from the BBC:

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-60029508

          It's from February, but it has most of the same information (the main things I see missing are the specifics number of people added to the list and the details of the bribery scheme).

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I give less of a fuck about OnlyFans compared to Meta and the phrasing of both the title and the article itself is nowhere near as impactful as Jezebel's writing.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It is partly about sex work but it's really more about tech companies just literally putting competitors on a terrorism watch list. The most insane shit I've read this year

        • Lilith [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          :this: it’s absolutely nuts. Can you imagine uber doing this to drivers who tried to leave for lyft?

          • Abraxiel
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            2 years ago

            Fairly easily, unfortunately. It will be a bit before drivers are put into the untouchable caste where no one cares when it happens though.

  • Lilith [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :what-the-hell:

    what the fuck

    if I wasn’t already on that list for fighting cops, then I’m definitely on it now

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Same, looks like I’m a VIP once again

      :agony-shivering:

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Ruining people's lives to fuck over competitors. I would say I'm surprised, but ya know... capitalism:fidel-wut:

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      :yikes-1::yikes-3:

      calling OnlyFans a “pimp” is really not accurate and that term perpetuates so much ongoing misconceptions about sex work.

      OnlyFans is a garbage capitalist corporation that is behaving like a garbage capitalist corporation. I hope whoever did this at both companies gets the fucking wall.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Capitalists of the sex work industry. The only difference is the fact that sex work is very gendered work and the capitalists in that industry use the power of patriarchal exploitation on top of "normal" capitalist exploitation of the workers.

          Stuff like Only Fans is honestly a big step in the right direction for sex work as it can give the worker a bit more control over their lives, but it only intensifies the capitalist component of that relation while reducing the patriarchal component.

          This shows that while platforms like Only fans do reduce the direct patriarchal exploitation of the workers, it absolutely doesn't eliminate it as method of exploitation.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    So only fans isn't the "liberation" radlibs say it is? I'm shocked I tell you, absolutely shocked!

    Seriously I've had radlibs tell me that only fans is giving the "means of production to the workers" and other stuff. Just because it's less exploitative than other forms of sex work does not mean it's revolutionary

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      it’s closer to doing that and generally a material improvement for me and other sex workers, yeah. It’s also still a capitalist monster like every other big tech company.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah it's a material improvement over other forms of sex work. As an outsider though, it seems like they're constantly trying to kick sex workers off the platform, every few months there some big controversy that makes it onto mainstream news and then a ton of people talk about moving over to different platforms, to the point that even me, who doesn't watch porn and use much social media, sees it all over social media.

        • Lilith [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          it seems like they’re constantly trying to kick sex workers off the platform

          they have been and it’s bullshit that they’d then turn around and do this to everyone they were also throwing out

          :desolate:

          these sites need to be worker owned and operated.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah it seems to me that they just want to burn though users and don't care about the long term welfare of the people that actually make the site profitable.

            It's tough out there for sex workers online, I think even over a year ago most NSFW subreddits on :reddit-logo: banned people with an only fans immediately. I don't know what the situation is now, probably worse.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        2 years ago

        I don't think anything like real liberation is possible for sex workers under capitalism. In a vague sense I don't like the idea of sex work, but I know I have to fight anything opposing sex work because any crackdowns will hurt workers doing nothing terribly wrong, not the people I actually want behind bars.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I mean they've always been pretty bad, like only the top 1% of creators earn any decent money and they sell this dream of making it big to everyone. I think the average only fans account has only earned like 200-300USD over it's lifetime.

        • Lilith [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          a lot of accounts are barely used or people decide it’s not for them. do you have a source on that statistic? I’d love to read about how they got that number

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            So I was unable to find a source for that one, probably really outdated information.

            https://earthweb.com/onlyfans-statistics/

            According to this the average monthly earnings is 150USD per month from 21 subscribers, without tips.

            The rest of the article sounds like bs though, especially the part about no screenshots. If that was true, there wouldn't be so many complaints about content being leaked.