Adding to this something I mentioned before, the thing I think these consumers like about loli is that they represent 'purity' which is also a thing you see in some protestant sects that obsess over girls' chastity. The subtext of purity, of course, is inexperience with life and being impressionable to whatever the surrounding culture impresses on them. A common theme for both protestant weirdos and lolicons is "raising" their lust interest into sharing their values. Basically, the goal is to brainwash them into being docile and easy to manipulate, which makes sense given how most of them struggle to negotiate with adult women.
Similarly, a not insignificant number of chasers think that they can convince femboys and young transwomen to be tradwives (because cis women won't) before they get infected with the woke mind virus. Some will even try to convince transgirls to not transition because they think that the E will somehow impart the forbidden knowledge of feminism into their targets.
man I just wanna read/watch isekais because I like seeing our world logic applied to fantasy pottery kingdoms like in Log Horizon when they get rich making hamburgers and buy all the buildings in the town or in Goblin Slayer (not an isekai I know) when he uses a teleportation scroll tied to the ocean to use water pressure to cut an ogre apart I don't want them to be having sex with everything
You won't see anything in anime you aren't looking for. I was a dumb teenager when I watched shield hero and I did not pick up the misogyny at all(I'm smarter now), I was just at a really angry and sad place in my life, and the show really appealed to me because wouldn't it be great if there were people who couldn't fail me and I could have my boss executed? Looking back now I see the problems, but I was there because it was a release for all my anger and there were cool fights and raphtalia was fun sometimes.
it's super horny about the sexual assault. it's very uncomfortable.
and because i'm incapable of not taking any opportunity to shill for utena, you should watch utena if you want an anime that treats sexual violence as bad. it's very good
Utena good no doubt.
I disagree about the rest though. It is like that one french movie. It depicts it more graphically. Definitely more graphically than is actually a good idea. However most anime is gleefully about sexual violence. Even regular anime has women's bodies being routinely violated as a joke you know. I am sure the work didn't handle it well enough, but there is enough there that the show being anti violence is a common read.
it definitely seems like at least someone on the animation team was trying to titillate. and some of the audience for sure took it that way. idk, i haven't seen the whole show, i just think from the way it was framed it's kind of sus.
if you say the way it's written takes the sexual assault more seriously and is better handled than the isolated clips i've seen, that's fair. i just think that it's part of the problem in at least some ways
No. It is weird though. Cause regular anime is horny about sexual violence. Look at it's contemporary SAO. Goblin slayer only portrays it is as bad and uncomfortable. To the extent that there are multiple story arcs about dealing with ptsd and society ignoring victims because it is uncomfortable. I dunno what the breakdown is but when you look at the discourse for the show there is a sizeable group of people that read it as I did. So I don't think I am just idiosyncratic in my read of it.
This is why Ascendance of a Bookworm is the best Isekai. Just a nerdy crafts girl becoming rich by introducing innovations like shampoo, paper, and pizza.
it's still got its weird moments with this pseudo romantic infatuation with Lutz when she's literally like 20+ in a little girl's body but it's much less bad than like any other anime so yeah
it's trying to have a child character that's an adult but also a cute romance and it doesn't work, but it doesn't strike me as being meant to be sexy or anything which so many other examples clearly are.
I've found you're better off reading serials on like RoyalRoad if you're looking to scratch that 'isekai economics world-building' itch lol. Wandering Inn being probably the most famous non-Royal Road serial in that vein.
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Adding to this something I mentioned before, the thing I think these consumers like about loli is that they represent 'purity' which is also a thing you see in some protestant sects that obsess over girls' chastity. The subtext of purity, of course, is inexperience with life and being impressionable to whatever the surrounding culture impresses on them. A common theme for both protestant weirdos and lolicons is "raising" their lust interest into sharing their values. Basically, the goal is to brainwash them into being docile and easy to manipulate, which makes sense given how most of them struggle to negotiate with adult women.
Similarly, a not insignificant number of chasers think that they can convince femboys and young transwomen to be tradwives (because cis women won't) before they get infected with the woke mind virus. Some will even try to convince transgirls to not transition because they think that the E will somehow impart the forbidden knowledge of feminism into their targets.
this is the short answer? (just kidding)
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Shield Hero, right?
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man I just wanna read/watch isekais because I like seeing our world logic applied to fantasy pottery kingdoms like in Log Horizon when they get rich making hamburgers and buy all the buildings in the town or in Goblin Slayer (not an isekai I know) when he uses a teleportation scroll tied to the ocean to use water pressure to cut an ogre apart I don't want them to be having sex with everything
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I ignore all the problematic parts of it I just want to see him make air-fuel bombs with flour god damn it
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You won't see anything in anime you aren't looking for. I was a dumb teenager when I watched shield hero and I did not pick up the misogyny at all(I'm smarter now), I was just at a really angry and sad place in my life, and the show really appealed to me because wouldn't it be great if there were people who couldn't fail me and I could have my boss executed? Looking back now I see the problems, but I was there because it was a release for all my anger and there were cool fights and raphtalia was fun sometimes.
What? I always though Goblin Slayer was good for being the only anime to portray sexual violence as bad. Did I get proven wrong by history?
it's super horny about the sexual assault. it's very uncomfortable.
and because i'm incapable of not taking any opportunity to shill for utena, you should watch utena if you want an anime that treats sexual violence as bad. it's very good
Utena good no doubt.
I disagree about the rest though. It is like that one french movie. It depicts it more graphically. Definitely more graphically than is actually a good idea. However most anime is gleefully about sexual violence. Even regular anime has women's bodies being routinely violated as a joke you know. I am sure the work didn't handle it well enough, but there is enough there that the show being anti violence is a common read.
i just noticed, how did you format your post like that?
it definitely seems like at least someone on the animation team was trying to titillate. and some of the audience for sure took it that way. idk, i haven't seen the whole show, i just think from the way it was framed it's kind of sus.
if you say the way it's written takes the sexual assault more seriously and is better handled than the isolated clips i've seen, that's fair. i just think that it's part of the problem in at least some ways
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No. It is weird though. Cause regular anime is horny about sexual violence. Look at it's contemporary SAO. Goblin slayer only portrays it is as bad and uncomfortable. To the extent that there are multiple story arcs about dealing with ptsd and society ignoring victims because it is uncomfortable. I dunno what the breakdown is but when you look at the discourse for the show there is a sizeable group of people that read it as I did. So I don't think I am just idiosyncratic in my read of it.
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This is why Ascendance of a Bookworm is the best Isekai. Just a nerdy crafts girl becoming rich by introducing innovations like shampoo, paper, and pizza.
it's still got its weird moments with this pseudo romantic infatuation with Lutz when she's literally like 20+ in a little girl's body but it's much less bad than like any other anime so yeah
isn't it implied she's kind of mentally fused with her child body, so she isn't fully an adult? still weird, but i thought that was the explanation
Like, kinda, but I wouldn't see that excuse flying with a male protagonist in terms of analyzing the pedo qualities of another show
it's trying to have a child character that's an adult but also a cute romance and it doesn't work, but it doesn't strike me as being meant to be sexy or anything which so many other examples clearly are.
does that make sense?
I've found you're better off reading serials on like RoyalRoad if you're looking to scratch that 'isekai economics world-building' itch lol. Wandering Inn being probably the most famous non-Royal Road serial in that vein.
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