"More than anything, they have succumbed to a mindset where “winning” means earning enough money to insulate themselves from the damage they are creating by earning money in that way. It’s as if they want to build a car that goes fast enough to escape from its own exhaust."

    • save_vs_death [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      a bunker can have it's own air recycling system and not be open to people just pissing into the vent; however if it does have such a thing, the air will eventually smell like sweat, disinfectant and prison, because that's what it's gonna be, a prison

    • Dingus_Khan [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      "how do I prevent people from pouring concrete into my ventilation system?”

      If you find the air vents, a few tires soaked in kerosene and set alight would do the job much faster

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I feel like it's pretty easy to stick a few petrified trees in the ground and pipe ventilation through them so that nobody even knows there's anything there

        like, on a multimillionaire's budget obviously

    • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      You don't control them. You are going to become their slave cuz in an apocalypse type world they are envisioning the violent and strong control most.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    earlier this year, this massive asshole--who got very rich controlling the supply of legal alcohol to broke mountain people and then was a state legislator protecting his legal monopoly, trying to make it kosher to hit protestors with a car, and spouting Qanon bullshit--built some multimillion dollar doomsday megabunker out in the exurbs as part of his mega-McMansion.

    And like all of these fucking idiots, he bragged about it and listed its specifics online on zillow to own the libs / show off how brilliant he was for having a megabunker to be ready for the coming civil war. The zillow profile of the house went viral, because this guy is a public figure with a 2000 sq ft subterranean bunker.

    his family of disgustingly inhumane, right-wing political opportunists were holed up in the surface mansion one night when an unemployed dishonorably discharged troop from the suburbs one state away--using knowledge of ingresses and family movement from a basic reconnoiter--armed with a rifle and some paranoid delusional psychosis, infiltrated the house, in his own words, to find a place for his family and friends to hide due to an imminent nuclear war. the ex-troop killed one of these shitstains and wounded the patriarch before escaping into the night. he was found a few days later wandering along the interstate a few miles away.

    the patriarch has learned nothing from this object lesson. he publicly insists the infiltrator was a government asset trying to false flag assassinate him for being pro-Q. he has since moved away from the area.

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    2 years ago

    I take great comfort in knowing those bunkers are worthless. The capitalists that built them would have cut as many corners and possible and used the lowest quality materials possible to maximize their own profits. They'll be glorified coffins within months of societal collapse

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, "Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire." But Abraham replied, "Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us."

      • Sinonatrix [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Fuck no I'm not shuffling papers for 40 hours a week to keep hell running, just give me the agony

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Then the kings of the earth, the important people, the generals, the rich, the powerful, and all the slaves and free people concealed themselves in caves and among the rocks in the mountains. They told the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the one who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb. For the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to endure it?”

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I’m reminded of that Kentucky Q crank who listed his mansion doomsday bunker for sale, and another Q crank with military training broke into it and killed the owner’s family because he wanted to use the mansion bunker for himself

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    But if they were in it just for fun, they wouldn’t have called for me. They would have flown out the author of a zombie apocalypse comic book. If they wanted to test their bunker plans, they’d have hired a security expert from Blackwater or the Pentagon. They seemed to want something more. Their language went far beyond questions of disaster preparedness and verged on politics and philosophy: words such as individuality, sovereignty, governance and autonomy.

    That’s because it wasn’t their actual bunker strategies I had been brought out to evaluate so much as the philosophy and mathematics they were using to justify their commitment to escape. They were working out what I’ve come to call the insulation equation: could they earn enough money to insulate themselves from the reality they were creating by earning money in this way? Was there any valid justification for striving to be so successful that they could simply leave the rest of us behind –apocalypse or not?

    Or was this really their intention all along? Maybe the apocalypse is less something they’re trying to escape than an excuse to realise The Mindset’s true goal: to rise above mere mortals and execute the ultimate exit strategy.

    "UlyssesT, why is your novel's setting so grim and pessimistic? You seem to have a bias against job creators." :so-true: -Actual quote from actual feedback I got from a beta reader a few years back

  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    Treat your gaurds like family.

    Naaaw let's just strap bomb collars on them to keep them in line.

    These are the people we are dealing with. They are pure evil and they are the ones doing the most damage to our fragile ecosystem.

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Rushkoff also talked about this on TrueAnon 244. Soul-rending episode, shit’s bleak

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Collapse isn't going to be the same across every place. I feel like the future US will have a handful of states still functioning while the rest resemble collapse. The more intelligent wealthy chuds will probably move to the functioning states while the idiots continue to live in their metal coffin inside the failed states.