Doesn't matter though, who gives a shit about matters of "vastly greater" (as defined by who?) degree. Exploitation is exploitation and suffering is suffering. Period. Fucking nerd.
The uhh, taxonomic system? The fact that humans can produce offspring with each other but not other animals? The fact that humans are capable of intelligent communication and all but maybe the very smartest non-human animals (e.g. dolphins) aren't?
Do you really want to say the difference between races is the same as the difference between humans and other animals? Because yikes.
Oh, so it's a matter of taxonomy, then? Not the capacity for suffering? Hmmm.. seems to me there were some eugenicists that made similar arguments. Go figure.
Who says a distinction needs to be made? I guess since there is some difference between dogs and humans, that makes it ok to beat dogs to death they might taste good? Exceptional materialism there, comrade.
ok, then replaced dog with pig. Or Aardvark. The logic is unchanged. Jesus, I would have hoped that people who considered themselves "communists" would be better able to think this through.
I am fortunate that I get to spend a lot of time around wild animals, and I feel that they're regard for the world around them, each other, their offspring, suffering, and anything else you can think of is not human. They shouldn't be anthropomorphized. Your ability to relate to them (and vice versa) is very limited.
This isn't a criticism of being compassionate towards animals, but something to keep in mind. I wouldn't feel confident in your ability to read them on an emotional level.
Right, that's exactly what is meant by "exploitation" in Marxist theory. So smrt. Even if that were the case, our inability to separate out the use of things like wind and land from SENTIENT FUCKING BEINGS that feel pain and are capable of suffering is just testament to our inability to empathize with anything than isn't "like" you. That's a very typical liberal problem that you suffer from and you'd do well to do some self crit on it if you think of yourself as anything beond a larping leftist. Really, this is kindergarten-level discourse.
Because the difference between humans and other animals is vastly greater than the difference between culturally made up classes and races of people?
Now who needs their citations? :blob-no-thoughts:
Doesn't matter though, who gives a shit about matters of "vastly greater" (as defined by who?) degree. Exploitation is exploitation and suffering is suffering. Period. Fucking nerd.
The uhh, taxonomic system? The fact that humans can produce offspring with each other but not other animals? The fact that humans are capable of intelligent communication and all but maybe the very smartest non-human animals (e.g. dolphins) aren't?
Do you really want to say the difference between races is the same as the difference between humans and other animals? Because yikes.
Oh, so it's a matter of taxonomy, then? Not the capacity for suffering? Hmmm.. seems to me there were some eugenicists that made similar arguments. Go figure.
Who says a distinction needs to be made? I guess since there is some difference between dogs and humans, that makes it ok to beat dogs to death they might taste good? Exceptional materialism there, comrade.
The fact that distinctions exist for literally anything?
Also, humans and dogs co-evolved to be partners and companions.
ok, then replaced dog with pig. Or Aardvark. The logic is unchanged. Jesus, I would have hoped that people who considered themselves "communists" would be better able to think this through.
I am fortunate that I get to spend a lot of time around wild animals, and I feel that they're regard for the world around them, each other, their offspring, suffering, and anything else you can think of is not human. They shouldn't be anthropomorphized. Your ability to relate to them (and vice versa) is very limited.
This isn't a criticism of being compassionate towards animals, but something to keep in mind. I wouldn't feel confident in your ability to read them on an emotional level.
"Umm actually when you replace this one thing with this completely different thing your argument fails. There's actually zero difference..."
But you still haven't answered my question, you tried to dodge it.
I would like to exploit some wind energy, some trees, some labor from myself and others, and on and on. I am an exploiter.
Right, that's exactly what is meant by "exploitation" in Marxist theory. So smrt. Even if that were the case, our inability to separate out the use of things like wind and land from SENTIENT FUCKING BEINGS that feel pain and are capable of suffering is just testament to our inability to empathize with anything than isn't "like" you. That's a very typical liberal problem that you suffer from and you'd do well to do some self crit on it if you think of yourself as anything beond a larping leftist. Really, this is kindergarten-level discourse.
I want to exploit humans too. I hope I'm not doing everything by myself.