I'm only bringing it up because it's hilarious watching reddit, who freaks out any time a gun is fired, defend him at every turn.
Funny how quickly they go from "there's no such thing as a negligent discharge" to "Alec Baldwin is a saint :wojak-nooo: "
Reddit comments section: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/xwbsu9/alec_baldwin_reaches_settlement_with_halyna/
Ya know, I never liked his Trump impression but I must admit he's a serious actor and he committed to the role like a method actor
Trump may have only said he could get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue but Baldwin took it to the logical conclusion and he actually got away with shooting someone
:joker-amerikkklap:
Wasn’t the assistant director who checked the guns (instead of actual professionals who were on strike at the time) extremely horrible at maintaining workplace safety and claimed the revolver had no live rounds when handing it over
the AD gave him the gun, said it was "cold" having neither bullets nor blanks. He had been fired from a 2019 production when someone got injured by a weapons discharge.
I don't know why people are arguing that it's an "either or" situation as to who is to blame over on :reddit-logo:
As they looooove to comment over there, por que no los dos?
They were all scabs because the production company treated the normal staff horribly and they all quit.
I want to know why live ammo was on a set in the first place. I also know that "blanks" can be dangerous..
i vaguely remember from when it happened that they think somebody was shooting the revolver for fun in the off-time.
Yup and it makes it even worse because why are you using a prop on off production hours for fun and not making sure the live ammo is out of it at the end (which is one of already many questions of "why the fuck would you ever do that?")
it's not alec the actor's fault, but it is alec the producer's fault. he bears responsibility for the corner cutting, fuck him.
My thing with the "Alec the actors fault" thing is why are we eschewing normal gun safety rules just because there's a movie being filmed? The presence of cameras and the noble pursuit of the craft of acting™ don't magically make things different. It's standard practice to check a gun that someone hands you NO MATTER WHAT.
Reddit type Libs cry that gun owners make the world unsafe when the overwhelming majority follow the normal safety guidelines. Rule number 1. Dont point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy. Rule number 2. ALWAYS check a gun handed to you. Why do actors get a pass just because someone is paid to do their thinking for them? Filming a movie doesn't suddenly make the consequences of your actions go away just because it was "someone else's job".
"How many kids need to die because you want your penis substitute?" Crys the liberal
How many people need to be killed or seriously hurt on movie sets for the sake of authentic looking weapons?
Isn't this what libs scream anytime seone gets killed in a gun "accident"?
just because there’s a movie being filmed?
yes, actually. the chain of custody and trusting other people to do their jobs properly makes what should be a controlled environment like a movie set different from other circumstances where gun negligence occurs.
don't hire scabs.
I agree with not hiring scabs, but I don't agree that gun safety should be ignored because you put your trust in someone else. If that's true, then that opens the door for a whole host of other potentially dangerous situations.
What makes it different?
:wojak-nooo: "gun nuts never follow rules and innocent people pay the price"
Gun owners explaining that the rules weren't followed
:so-true: "actually that's different"
Is a bad take.
but I don’t agree that gun safety should be ignored because you put your trust in someone else
not one person, multiple people including the union, but i can see i'm not going to convince you that your expectation of actors is out of line with the standards created by people who have thought about this way more than you or I have.
It just doesn't negate the fact that people didn't personally follow the rules.
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree here.
I'm not gonna read through a bunch of nerds trying to argue the legal distinction of him as an actor versus producer and where the fault lies between the various parties involved with this shitshow. Seriously, what the fuck drives someone to want to write a whole-ass essay on Reddit?
The day I realized there was nothing I could ever say to change someone's mind on that God awful site was a very liberating day. I don't even have an account there anymore but I still use it for news and some niche subreddits.
This is a fresh batch of brainworms though.. I would love to hook up a positive jumper cable to a comment section about Baldwin and a negative cable up to an article about some other "accidental" shooting and power the whole state with the resulting dynamo.
i thought they were all mad at him because he didnt follow the gun rules of checking the gun for gun bullets
