What can we do to change this? I don't think chapo.chat will ever be huge, but it would be nice for it to be consistently active.
What can we do to change this? I don't think chapo.chat will ever be huge, but it would be nice for it to be consistently active.
Stop dividing it into a million communities. @Beatnik
This is just one subreddit, it needs to stay that way.
Copy how T_D served their community because it clearly worked. They made a site functional and very close to Reddit, regardless of content. Didn't subdivide it, didn't censor users, made a functional light mode! (Light mode still fucked here by the way.) Default dark mode for converting users from a default lightmode site is very stupid.
People keep dropping off here and improvements are being made, but subdividing a site with so few users is a very bad move. Focus on making the front page, the new feed, and megathreads perfect first. Some kind of infinite scroll for the front page would be an improvement. Thank you for getting rid of the constant updating sort for comments.
And fix the front page algorithm to be WAY slower. It updates so often that it really makes the site seem damn empty with the top post currently having only 90 votes (on a site with supposedly 8100 users). You need a slow algo that gets people on the same page about posts and jokes even if they only check the site once a day, which is what most people do.
Top move would be to abolish communities, quick. Lock them or something to go back to an active main page with everyone on it, like a subreddit, you know. Then go back to communities when we have 10,000 active users again. But not right now with 500.
Can confirm - the strongest reason why I considered NOT joining is the dark mode, which was new, grating, and disorienting. I get that it's enviro-friendly... but none of the sites I'm used to do that, so it's like working with the lights off suddenly.
And if you're used to going to settings and changing from light to dark and vice-versa - cool. But the rest of us derps aren't.
Full support for focusing on the front page and KILLING AUTOUPDATE that makes everything jump every 20 seconds.
The meme of 'dark mode master race' is humorous, but a terrible move if converting people from Reddit.
Unfortunately, the first impression has been made now and all those people pinged on Discord will have been turned off by the site's appearance already.
And switching to default light mode now, (which you should @Beatnik ) will cause users here now to get mad about it. Though you can just tell them to change settings.
"Enviro-friendly" is nonsense, if that's a reason anyone is giving that's laughable.
The worst part is the "base" light mode option looks like THIS currently: https://i.imgur.com/vq72G3Q.png
So I'm forced to keep using dark mode. Insane that fixing the fucking light mode site isn't a priority.
Yeesh, that's a rough-looking light mode.
Ideally you could grandfather in existing users to dark mode, although I have no idea how technically challenging this would be.
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Far more challenging than telling people "change settings to dark mode" and explaining how dumb of a move it was to make it default.
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You can subdivide and just make all default.
Subdivisions' purpose are to relegate certain posts to certain communities.
Flairing system is a good way to 'sort' for specific posts, but not by splitting a 500 user community into 20 sub communities even smaller and less active.
Yea, I guess. Semantics really because we both mean the same thing. Still maybe'd you want some moderation possible per tag/sub/flare
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Overreacting. The various communities are ok as they are currently, just a touch quiet. They'll be fine though.
Some actual data here, things haven't changed much at all in the last month: https://hexbear.net/post/22647/comment/166641
I think some of your suggestions are good, but the comms are fine and stable right now. There are lots of improvements to be made but rolling back into one single comm isn't necessary.
From a subreddit and Discord with over 10,000 users, 600 active users is really shameful. Those 10k are people who were active enough to seek out a transitional community and wait. It should have translated to far more activity here, but so many problems present with this website have driven them away.
That was going to happen one way or another. Not everyone from the subreddit made it over to the discord and not everyone from the discord is making it over here because they've discovered they like the discord. A painful issue but one nonetheless.
Calm down. It is a marathon not a sprint. People haven't been "driven away", the data objectively shows otherwise. There's a very very slow user churn occurring which is typical of all communities from videogame audiences to random internet spaces. We're only just about equalling that churn, maybe falling slightly below it, but either way the site is health and doing fine.
The devs and everyone is working flat out on a host of things, the primary of all being to just keep the thing working in the face of many technical problems. More dev time can not just simply be magicked up for all the different issues, give it time.
Just because people haven't made the site part of their daily routine immediately doesn't mean they should be considered permanently lost users anyway. They'll be back. You can absolutely count on people wanting to see the takes here as key election things unfold, while the dem convention was ongoing the whole site had an uptick of engagement that dwarfed engagement immediately before and after it.
In my opinion retention isn't the primary problem of the site, growth is. While retention is indeed important there's not enough effort being put forth into spreading the site right now. There are tonnes and tonnes of people over on reddit that don't know it exists yet. Additionally to that we're not performing outreach to influencers right now which probably has the largest potential to generate big new-user waves using the same methods /r/iama uses to trade advertising to reddit's audience for influencers bringing in their audience to reddit for interviews. Every person that does an iama brings their audience with them, this was a core component of reddit's growth strategy and I've already vocalised the need for the site to follow suit, I don't have the personal time to run it alone or even as a primary person on it however. There's also a whole bunch of other things that have been discussed and thrown around from what I've gathered but the primary barrier is time.
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It was a large pool of people waiting for a Reddit alternative served a broken, alienating site experience that drove them away.
Maybe at least jog to giving us a functional light mode.
the base theme works fine for me after the latest update. can you check it out?
oooh, i see the weird grey thing. odd bug! i'll log it
Friend, you are way too focused on this lightmode being broken thing I'm not sure if this is a bit anymore. It comes across exactly the same way it would come across if someone claimed that the site having a broken darkmode was killing a website. It is neither killing the website which is objectively proven by the data nor is it the biggest priority. The biggest priority, as I see it, is influencer outreach. There are people with thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands in their audiences. Attracting them to the site and giving them an incentive to promote the site to their audiences is the priority. Yes there are other problems. I agree with you. Problems that will slowly be worked through bit by bit by the team. They are working at maximum capacity and no amount of frustrated angry posting will change their maximum output.
Extreme negativity on the other hand could demoralise people. Please try to be a little constructive.