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https://twitter.com/Aja_X_/status/1583366100204498945?cxt=HHwWgsCtgYjFn_krAAAA

  • CetaceanPosadist
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    2 years ago

    they actually did manage to avoid listing anything that was directly a part of the war with the nazis; the 39-41 ones are all a series of realpolitik annexations carried out to strengthen the soviet position before the imminent war with germany, and some say to evacuate jews though i don't think i've ever personally seen any literature to back that up.

    given how close the war ended up being even if one were to say these annexations were horrible crimes i think it's very easy to accept them as having been necessary

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      :reddit-logo: Akshully the USSR should have let Nazi Germany have all of Poland instead of half of it. Tankies argue that the Soviet annexation of Eastern Poland might have shielded that half the country from genocide, but we know that's not true because gommunism and Nazism are just as bad.

      • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The area that the Soviets took from Poland were mostly areas that Poland had seized from Ukraine during the Russian Revolution.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Poor Makhno. The end of his life was really sad. Like he was sick and unable to work towards the end. Apparently he was an asshole and hard to deal with, but even so, what friends he had could barely scrape together enough money to keep him and his family alive. He deserved more than that, whatever you think about his politics.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Stalin shooting 100,000 or so Poles for political reasons and the Nazis murdering three million ethnic Poles and three million Jewish Poles are exactly the same thing and equally bad. This is a real belief that many in Eastern Europe and around the West hold.

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          False equivalence undergirds their entire ideology. It is the table upon which the house of cards is assembled.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      some say to evacuate jews

      I've never seen anything to suggest that was a goal, but i do know that almost all the Jews in Eastern Europe who survived did so by fleeing to the USSR.

      • CetaceanPosadist
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        2 years ago

        i haven't either but it's the kind of thing where while there's almost no way it was the primary motivation behind the occupation of Poland it's just hard to imagine someone in the soviet decision making process not even thinking about it being one of the benefits