yup, struggle session time

edit: no one is right, everyone is wrong :^)

edit 2: this post is actually dedicated to Amy Goodman, please stop trying to sound cool grandma

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
    2·
    4 years ago

    Are there any essays you've seen by actual Latinx folk arguing for the term? I've read a lot of the opposite side but haven't seen much written support for it, and would totally be down to reading. You're right that there's not one monolithic "community," did not mean to imply that. Just meant that this is something that ideally should be worked out amongst those have a stake in it.

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
        1·
        4 years ago

        This has been the take I've seen, but I'm still just surprised no one has made a more concerted effort to push for the use of "e" endings or just refer to the gender neutral singular in the plural masculine.

        • gay [any]
          ·
          4 years ago

          gender neutral singular

          Ajá...

          in the plural masculine.

          Hmm, por qué será.

          • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
            1·
            4 years ago

            The plural masculine thing is because spanish isn't my first language and I mostly just learned it in school so some stuff isn't correct. But I always learned to address groups of men and woman in the plural masculine and it doesn't seem weird to me to continue to do that in the same vain as they/them pronouns in english not usually being used in the singluar.

            • gay [any]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Spanish is a completely different language from English and there's absolutely no reason to follow its grammar. It's insulting to imply Spanish speakers couldn't come up with good ideas of gender neutrality. They/them are gender neutral pronouns, masculine forms in Spanish are not.

              You're already coming from a mistaken place where you assume that this is only about creting a gender neutral term (which it is) but also a way feminists want to challenge the patriarchal assumption that the average person is a man. Or that women are de facto included when you're clearly addressing men. Language is more than just grammar, it changes. That you were told one thing in your class doesn't change the fact that its users need something else now.

            • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
              ·
              4 years ago

              they/them pronouns in english not usually being used in the singluar.

              They/them is used all the time to refer to someone you don't know the gender of, most people don't even realise they are doing it.

              "How was work?"
              "Got a new manager"
              "What are they like?"

              "You look angry, what happened?"
              "Some prick nearly knocked me off my bike"
              "People like them need to learn how to drive"