Some teenagers broke into a vacant property on my block and were destroying the place. They broke all the windows were running around and smashing holes in the wall. I feel bad because acab but I didn't know what to do. I don't particularly want kids destroying my block and I talked to my neighbor who lived next door and he seemed legit scared about the situation. I don't feel like confronting them would have been safe since it would have been many of them and one of me.
Could I have done something different?
Update I don't even know if the police ended up coming but it quieted down within 10 minutes of my call. A couple cars were broken into and one was stolen.
Smdh socialists always want big government to solve their problems. Rally your neighbors to shoot the children yourself.
Holy shit, I know this was a joke but this might actually be a bait from OP being a troll or :fedposting:
Look at their account. It has 19 posts and 139 comments but they're all deleted
It's totally possible that OP is deleting their history of trying to start drama so that nobody will call them out for :fedposting:
Cointelpro explicitly laid out strategies for feds to start useless arguments to waste an org's time (not that we're doing literally anything important here)
Or hexbear is a containment OP. The :fedposting: is coming from inside the house! Do you hear me? It's coming from inside the house! You need to get out!
Yeah you probably should feel bad. Calling the cops is a last resort for if someone is in imminent physical danger and it would improve the situation if a bunch of reckless unaccountable violent and unpredictable goons arrived.
Don't call the cops on behalf of some slumlord's forgotten 34th house
Edit: unless youre calling the cops for some event so mundane and uninteresting that they cant possibly work up their bloodlust over it. Thats based cause it wastes time they could be spending harassing or murdering people
Calling the cops is a last resort for if someone is in imminent physical danger and it would improve the situation if a bunch of reckless unaccountable violent and unpredictable goons arrived.
arrived late
I'm not even sure if the cops arrived but I'm pretty sure the pigs were just going to tell them to leave.
You can never be sure what will happen when you call the cops. It's best to treat it as lethal intervention. Use it only in situations which would be improved by the addition of violence.
I called the cops once because I heard gunshots coming from my neighbors house, and people on this site got so fucking mad at me lol
my neighbor was beating his gf and the consensus was "it's a bad idea cracker"
edit: tbh I still don't know what the right call is in that situation but I don't want to just hear screams through the wall and do nothing, but I'm not about to go next door to confront someone 3 feet taller than me. It is a fucking difficult situation to be in and people need to put ACAB aside at least enough to appreciate that difficulty
There is a societal role for something like the police to exist and be necessary. But what we have unfortunately ain't it. And it ain't ever going to be it in a system with evictions and private property.
This is where I'm at.
yeah the cops are as an institution inherently perverted by their role as protectors of private property but like there is a place in society for like, people who are trained and whose job it is to deal with violent confrontations between people
but you hear somebody maybe getting beaten to death next door, you know the cops are here to protect private property, but maybe there's a chance someone won't get beaten to death tonight if they intervene
yeah it'd be better if you and your neighbors can step in but 1) I don't know my neighbors, 2) this guy is again much larger than me and I don't have a gun
It's just a shitty situation to be in and I really want to stress that because all the "cops make everything worse you dumb idiot" in the world doesn't really do much as you sit there listening to domestic violence happening as you panic over what the fuck to do
Please don't think I was being critical of you with my comment. It's better to drink the water with lead than to die of thirst. And the judgement of the person being put in the difficult position should almost always be trusted above a detached idealism.
I called the cops once on my shitty ex roommates because it sounded like someone was being murdered for several hours during one of their drunken/coked out fights and I had to work in the morning. This was a regular thing with them and the field where I grew my fucks had gone fallow. :shrug-outta-hecks:
I remember that. I thought "do you not think the wife would WANT you to call the police?"
I mean jesus ok cops have showed up on a scene before and escalated it into a homicide, true. ALSO husbands beating their wives have escalated beatings into homicides. I'll bet more abuser husbands have killed wives than random cops have killed people on calls. This site is idealistic which is nice but they fail at common sense.
My line is “Will this situation be improved by adding some reckless violent lunatics with guns?” And I think that’s one of the times where the answer is yes
I can feel it. This is the perfect topic for the next Hexbear struggle session
This is the perfect time to organize, we need a committee and to take a vote to decide who becomes John Wick/Bob Odenkirk.
I'm also excited for this one.
I say it's okay as long as the teenagers were white. :garf-troll:
Windows and walls are inanimate objects, chill, let the kids have some fun. The conflation of these kinds of actions with "violence" is essential to the functioning of police enforcing capitalist property relations
Past posts like these I've actually been pretty sympathetic to the person who did so because it was something serious like domestic abuse or another violent situation. But you called the cops on some teenagers in a vacant property just off bad vibes? Fuck you narc lol
If it was really bothersome you really could have just told them to leave. They're teens, what are they gonna do? Shoot you? You're scared of them, give me a fucking break. Just like the uniformed piggies you're petrified by some 13 year olds. Same mindset, Christ
I’ve only called the cops twice in my life. Once it was because two homeless people were physically fighting and one of them looked directly at me and shouted “Call the police call the police!”
The other time a couple came out of their front door shouting, and the man took the woman’s phone, chucked it in the yard, and then pushed her to the ground before slamming the door, then she went back in and the shouting continued. That one I still feel iffy about, I worry the cops showing up might’ve just made things worse.
I guess I'm just a lib. I wouldn't say smashing all the windows and walls is just "bad vibes". I know it's just property but we have to live here and smashing up something for shits and giggles that could potentially be housing isn't really helping anyone.
Yes, I'm scared of any potential conflict when everyone and their mother is armed.
I'm not saying what they did was fine, but calling the police is just asking for them to be funneled into the criminal justice system for something they'd probably never do as adults. The odds of a group of teenagers being strapped is pretty damn low almost anywhere. If you were really that scared to handle it yourself, you could've gone with the neighbor you talked to.
Frankly I'm skeptical the police would do much if they even showed up. After the uprising they are doing the bare minimum which is actually a good thing.
Not in America. A teens are involved in gun crimes all the time in my city.
Frankly I’m skeptical the police would do much if they even showed up
Then why call them?
Because the kids will run at the presence of the police.
You could lie and say you did without actually calling them
That is actually a good point. I genuinely want alternatives because I felt dirty after I did it.
We all make mistakes. If you end up in a situation like this again, now you have another idea.
So what you are saying is that you are so alienated from the young people in your area that you actually feel afraid of teenagers fucking around and being assholes on abandoned property? Like you really think that the kids in your area would rather beat you up than, idk, outrun your old ass? Like, you don't have to say "Hey go away or I'll call the cops." You can literally just be like "Hey assholes keep it down, people still live here!" and 99.9% percent of the time, they will fuck off.
Like you really think that the kids in your area would rather beat you up than, idk, outrun your old ass
This is such a suburbia take
Damn they must really raise kids different in cities then. If they are that dangerous then maybe they should be calling the cops, after all we don't know if those ruffians will rob us.
Yeah teenagers are like cats, you can just shoo them away with a broom
In my experience, yeah. Now, if they are drunk 17-22 then it's a little more unpredictable, but like 13-16 they are usually still just kids, unless things have changed so drastically from when I was a stupid kid fucking around on abandoned property.
Maybe if they were outside more but I'm not going inside and doing that.
I wouldn't go inside, literally just yell at them, but whatever, all you people seem really scared of kids.
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on the one hand property is theft, on the other hand all of this material accumulation is our common inheritance from past generations' labor, hmm
damn those kids were just trying to keep rents down near you and you ratted on them, that's cold
Doing this probably means the building will be torn down and turned into an expensive new property.
unlike you, I have faith that the teenagers will fuck up the new property too
but whatever makes you feel better about calling the cops for property damage
Is it fun being an edgy online socialist that has no basis in reality?
more fun than calling the cops on kids, yeah
you posted this in a community titled "all cops are bastards" and are upset people think what you did sucks
oh, i see, you actually were just here to start shit. cool, waiting for the :ban-hammer:
You could have gotten those kids killed. You should seriously self crit and think about the severity of what you did.
is it fun employing bourgeois state violence on defenseless kids?
Let me clarify for you:
I was joking when I said the kids were keeping the rent down. I was also joking when I said I had faith the kids would do it again. The only thing I am serious about is that calling the cops was a shitty thing to do.
I'm not sure what I did wrong here, but I'm sorry and in the future I will no longer make fun of people who call cops on kids when you're in the room
I don't think they backed out they were clearly joking about the motivations being property value related
But... it was always a joke. Do you think I actually thought kids were destroying property to keep rents down? Do you think I think kids care about that? Do you think I think kids would be doing it if it weren't a vacant property? Do I need to label every joke? I'm not sure why you're so angry with me. I hope everything's going okay with you, but I don't think I've caused you harm comrade.
You should have done your best HOA chairperson impression and shouted "Do I smell someone smoking Marijuana???" and waved a flashlight.
