lol, my teammates literally drive to one of the best skiing locations in America every single weekend during the winter and that's all they talk about
all my friends and classmates back in high school would ski and snowboard every winter weekend too
I love my parents for moving into a rich ass city so I could go to a nice high school, get into a great college, and have a good career but fuck, these are not my people at all
I get that feeling as well. My colleagues, who are all nice and likable people btw, will go on and on about going to nice restaurants or buying homes or investing or what have you and I will feel utterly alienated from them as I don't have the means to do any of that.
Thats what I hated about college the most, I wasn't always feeling like the oddman out because I was weird or stupid, I was just poor and carried the consequences of growing up poor with me. They just couldn't relate to me.
how is not having enough money to ski "ableism"
Death to America
I really love skiing but I didn't grow up with much money so I've only been a handful of times. This post refers to alpine skiing I thinkz cross country is pretty accessible with used gear.
So I don't ask "do you ski?" I ask "have you ever been skiing?"
It's a fairly cheap sport if you live within 3hrs of a lift. Though that's changed–I'm seeing lift tickets that went for $10 about a decade ago now going for $110.
Where tf do you live that lift tickets were $10 in the last ten years?
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Actually, near where I live, not every lift is resort owned. Some are municipal and they don't try to squeeze every cent out of you.
I know Mt. Ashland in Oregon near the California border is operated by a 501(c)3 on a mountain owned by the nearby town. Prices are not particularly low for what you're getting, though.
Yeah I mean when I was a kid in the northeast tickets at mountains were like $20 but that was thirty years ago
There’s like a Venn diagram of requisite conditions to ski, and that usually indicates privilege.
Edit: Thinking lift tickets/passes, gear (which new can be 1350+ for boots, bindings, and board or skis) and lessons as a kid or exposure to it. It isn’t prohibitively expensive, my 25/hr self can make it work, but at the same time, that’s out of reach for people. I love snowboarding, but like anything I feel like you need to acknowledge that some people can’t do it.
Cross country might be more accessible, but my only exposure to skiing has been resort skiing
The person above is probably thinking about lift tickets at ski resorts, which can be prohibitively expensive. Do you ski whatever hill is around you?
You don't think you might be an outlier geographically? If you don't live near a nice place to ski (which is most humans) the only type of person you'll meet that skiis is most likely privledged.
in the us the amount of places with hills and snow and a large population center is basically zero
Cross country skiing and downhill skiing are very very different.
Unless people say cross country first, they always mean downhill when they say skiing.
Counterpoint: It would be a lot cooler if you did.
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So now I'm wondering how it is that "resort skiing" completely colonized the public perception of what skiing is, blocking out the more affordable ways to do it.
Well, at least in :amerikkka: , most of the country is very far from the kind of geography and climate that is conducive to skiing. If you live south of like, Pennsylvania, you probably need to fly to skiable terrain, and get time off work to do it. So while Vermonters and Minnesotans can literally ski to work, skiing is bourgeois decadence to any resident of Texas, Florida, Georgia, most of California - probably at least half of amerikkkans
Resort skiing is insanely high reward for low effort. I mean you gotta learn to ski but other than that it's sitting in a lift for 10 minutes and then you go "wheeeeeeeeeeeee!" until you're down, rinse and repeat. Cross country skiing is "boring" by comparison and hiking up a mountain to ski down is, like, a lot of work.
I don’t think it’s an intentional conspiracy, it might me, but a lot of the big ticket Olympic and Xgames events are all resort based.
Maybe in places where you have to travel real far to get n the mountains
Common :grillman: and Gen-X junior :grillman: question is whether you vacationed in (exotic to :lmayo: tourist trap here) and if you didn't why didn't you and if you couldn't afford it why didn't you work harder for it.
I broke up with a girlfriend once because she fucking loved skiing and I wasn't willing to spend hundreds of dollars and drag my ass up a frigid mountain to sit around and wait for her every weekend for a quarter of the year.
Best decision ever.
my roommates are leftists and i think deep down know that it's bullshit, but also still make so many excuses about their ski-lives. (both grew up in highly educated and comparatively wealthy households)
like ... i really don't care about some random town in europe or the adirondaks where everyone skiis so therefore it's accessible to general public.
for MOST people, it is extremely out of reach.
