I just can't get over the level of car brain that's required to even think like this, let alone it being a genuine opinion on simply being able to walk places. Incredible stuff, there is no saving people like this, I mean really

https://twitter.com/RW_Crank/status/1623712284429152258

  • Melitopol [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    My uncle "loves" commuting 3 hours a day and looking half dead when he is back home.

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        i just read a business insider article out about this. it's cool, cause you can decompress from from work while driving, and not bring that negative energy into the home once you reach it. it's a win win actually

      • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        "I hate my wife, I hate my life, look at me brag, I love strife"

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        2 years ago

        A lot of the guys that I worked with in construction would commute 2+ hours. Housing in the next state over was like 150k while it was 600k+here, but the wages were like x2. They would all carpool in company vehicles so they didn't have to eat the maintenance cost just a shared bit of the fuel. Capitalism is the most efficient system by the way.

  • innocentlurker [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Just slap an expensive roof over it and call it a "Mall". That'll get 'em on board.

      • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        funny thing is the inventor of the mall in the US was an Austrian immigrant who missed organic pedestrian areas and wanted to bring them to the US

        • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          It's all making so much sense now lol. This is a good little tidbit of trivia

  • flan [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    why is this suddenly becoming a thing people are talking about

    • shiteyes2 [any]
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      2 years ago

      Culture wars are becoming the culture to the point that bigger and ever more appealing boogeymen must be found and derided in order to "keep the discussion going". It's viewed as harmless because nothing is ever going to get better until the boomers have all died.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        nothing is ever going to get better until the boomers have all died.

        For the most part, Gen-Xers are lined up and ready to continue the boomer cause for at least 20 more years. :grillman:

  • ComRed2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Burgers when they have to walk for a few minutes: :frothingfash:

  • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    When I started a job once the topic of conversation was how long your commute was. "Hi nice to meet you I'm Jason and my commute is 45 minutes" the king of the the office was a dude with a 90 min commute each way. He bragged about it. Literally could not understand him

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      really wild what some people brag about. like, cool bro, sounds miserable 👍

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Meanwhile I've managed to annoy most of my coworkers by bragging that I live across the street from our office building and can literally see my balcony from my desk.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :grillman: hold the hour-plus car commute as a sacred ritual, and the lead in their brains as a blessing.

  • panopticon [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Isn't the thing about being a peasant pretty much that you have to trek over the mountain and through the woods to get mom's medicine? I mean isn't that how all the old "it sucks to be a peasant" stories begin?

  • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    It'll take a good amount of effort to change people's minds about sprawl, but I'd really abandon the "15 minute city" phrase purely because of the WEF association. It's automatically a non-starter with these people because of that.

    I have successfully convinced conservatives, all manner of sprawl dweller and even West Virginian bootleggers, but it's not going to happen if you're using any of the same terms as WEF. I'm sure that particular person is too far gone, but most people are amenable to not risking their lives on dangerous roads just to feed themselves, honestly most people aren't this stupid.

    By the by: The biggest sticking point is always the association between denser areas and crime, but you just have to lay out the Fair Housing Admin, red-lining, how the reduction in services preventing strife was purposeful to drive white flight (and that money went right into loans to municipalities along highways to build sprawl), how it was done to isolate people in sprawl so they'd work on the war machines to pay their mortgage and get all their info from the television. It was a subsidy to make people more conservative, to beat the Soviets and prevent revolution at home by physically and socially dividing people, but it was never sustainable. These people are very skeptical of "government" and you can appeal to their sense of tradition - cars are relatively new, and the infrastructure is clearly breaking down and requiring trillion dollar bailouts just to be kept hobbling along, not to mention public sewer/water.

  • Dryad [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    That's the opposite of medieval peasantry! If you're a medieval peasant there might not be such necessities in your whole county! :matt-jokerfied: