I feel like at least one user predicted this but the closest I could find was makotech222 saying she would become a full fledged lib over 400viewers

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I am shocked that someone who relies on attention for income would do something shocking/ clickbait.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Oh god. This is extremely cursed. Keffals has been on some kind of bizarre quest to piss off and alienate everyone and I'm like 90% sure Shoe is dating a Nazi.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Keffals has been on some kind of bizarre quest to piss off and alienate everyone

      Always has been. Remember the progress flag "jokes", the bizzare behaviour of trying to unironically "ratio" people on twitter?

      It's easier when you remember that it's all about getting engagement and 99% of these steamers or social media influencers don't even believe what they say.

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    2 years ago

    The best solution to all of this is to just ignore it. These people function by generating outrage and drama, it is literally their business model. Personally I think most of it is cynical and self conscious, but even if it isn't the end result is the same. Like these aren't politicians or powerful businesses interests, they are just monetized shit posters.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Streamers posted a silly video. We shall neither view it nor reply to them.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is correct. Nothing of any importance has ever been decided in these e-celeb circles. Their entire "influence" has been making a relatively small segment of teen to early-20-something posters more annoying, and nothing else.

      Remember that the largest of them, HasanAbi, has only 1.18 million subscribers, and typically gets maybe a quarter of that in views for his videos (on stream he's getting around 40k viewers on a good night, according to the "twitch recommends"). That's great for an online media career, but how many people is he reaching relative to the total (adult) population?

      For easier math, I'll round his subscribers up to 2 million, and we'll pretend he or any of these people got most of their subs to watch. We'll also pretend that their viewership is entirely based in the US rather than spread out: The largest political streamer reaches about 0.7 percent of the adult population of the US under ideal circumstances.

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        this is extremely generous napkin math that 1) Hasan's audience in American adults 2) 1.18 rounds to 2 3) his subs aren't bots, abandoned accounts, hate watchers, etc. 4) the majority of what's left will watch a given video

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        2 years ago

        Basically yeah. Obviously there is some threshold at which point a influencer becomes powerful/important enough where pushback becomes warranted, but spending your time and energy getting dikchikluvr1488 kicked off stream for his "why labensraim is good actually" is kind of a waste when he's got like 100 viewers. Like obviously the world would be better if every ficking fascist got throat punched into silence, but at a certain point the energy invested outweighs the good it might do; especially when the parasites feed of the drama.

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        2 years ago

        Even if a shit person is advancing shit politics if they don't have either political or economic power or national audience giving them attention just seems counter productive. By all means attack big name entertainers/opinion havers, but I guarantee 99.99999% of people have no idea who these fucking niche internet psychos are.

  • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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    2 years ago

    Every day I feel more and more vindicated saying "leftist" streamers should be ignored. Turns out Keffals sucks, :shocked-pikachu: ect

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Yes, except she not only dated, but actually married ArmouredSceptic. Or at least they were engaged at some point idk. She tried to do a halfassed radlib grift / op sometime in early 2020, but even the most gullible breadtube redditors who thought Joe Rogan would get a "redemption arc" when he invited Bernie didn't take her seriously. I'm mildly surprised she kept at this for almost three more years. Or maybe she didn't and nobody cared, so now she has to remind people she exists.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's not purity testing to say that you can't use slurs wtf.

      Like yes, the disingenuous purity testing from super online radlibs is a problem, but asking someone not to use slurs is not that lmao.

      It's just super weird logic, and blaming it on being "mentally ill" to avoid taking any personal responsibility is just wrong.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      :data-laughing: if I didn’t know who this would I would’ve thought it was a right wing black propaganda account

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "I have been mildly inconvenienced by my strong political beliefs so the best course of action must be to abandon them entirely. I definitely stand for something and care about things."

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Or even letting randoms online that "share" similar politics to yours determine your political beliefs.

      Like I don't agree with what 90% of people on "leftist" Reddit or twitter say, but it doesn't mean I'm going to abandon my political views because of it lmao.

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Why should we respond to keffals? She would reply to us and we would have to reply to her reply. There's no end to that

  • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is shoeonhead the one 4chan girl from way back or is it someone just referencing that

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      Her name is a reference to shit channers used to say to women on the site but she isn’t boxxy they just happen to look somewhat similar