The fall of the USSR was objectively a tragedy for humanity.
Well folks look like climate change is the clear winner of the- wait, what's this?! IT'S GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
What liberals will take away from this is that they didn't fuck over Russia enough in the 90s
Waiting on the reveal the balloons were in fact checking for America’s nukes, and that America lied about their part of participating.
Oh Putin is actually saying that he’s out because US lied.
Is it true? No idea.
Does it mean we’re more likely to have a nuclear war? No, as the rich people in charge don’t want that inconvenience. Having a war that kills thousands and millions out of dirt sight is fine, having to hide in a bunker is not.
Time to study the NUKEMAP: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
good for me: my little pointless shithole is far enough away from the nearest city i will never be flash boiled or pink mist in the blast wave
bad for me: i'm fucking downwind lmaoThe worst part is if you're not near the center of the blast, but also not far enough to be safeish. Just the right spot for maximum suffering.
Nuclear explosions say death to suburbia.
The Joint Base where I live is in about the exact area to maximize the amount of the population within the slow painful death region if a nuke hit it :agony-yehaw:
Eh. The soft kill on modern nukes is big, but not as big as people tend to think. If you survive the blast pressure wave you're probably going to be fine at least until you starve to death or run out of water because everything is destroyed.
pretty much
my usual answer to "what would your ideal job be after a nuclear apocalypse?" is "corpse"I turned on MSNBC to see what they're covering at the top of the hour. They are replaying Biden's speech in Poland. "Freedom... allies... freedom... NATO... freedom... yada yada..." For some reason for a few seconds they played a song by Coldplay.
I wonder what percentage of liberals would be honest enough to admit that they actually support the war in Ukraine because they are angry at Putin about their "meddling" and support of Trump. As the reporters yakked - I heard more Coldplay in the background. Biden and Coldplay?
What a world.
Yup. Fuck surviving that shit. I've seen enough media bout life in refugee camps when the world isn't burning.
Get a respirator if you're actually worried about it, they're not a big deal. I've had to sleep wearing a respirator once and while it wasn't particularly comfortable, it worked. IIRC most fallout is particles (as opposed to gaseous) so you'd probably get decent protection with just normal P100 filters.
This was assuming enough distance that you're not in immediate danger of acute radiation poisoning, but true. Assuming you can get to some sort of shelter with minimal airflow from outside, you can strip off contaminated clothes and wash potentially exposed skin to get rid of most of it. Think of it as invisible dirt.
I'm no nuclear medicine expert but i'm pretty sure fallout touching your skin is like 100x less bad than inhaling or ingesting it in any way
Nope. That's not how fallout works. Most radioactive fallout is going to be squirting out alpha particles. They've got plenty of energy, but very little mass. You can stop most alpha particles with nothing more than a sheet of paper. Having them on your skin isn't good, but as long as you wash them off your cancer risk isn't going up that much.
The real danger is inhaling or ingesting fallout. Fallout on your body is at most going to irradiate some skin cells and those skin cells are going to get shed soon anyway. But if a bit of radioactive material gets inside your body then every decay particle it shoots out has a good chance of shredding some DNA in a cell and causing a mutation, and it'll keep doing that as long as it's in your body until it decays in to something stable or get's excreted.
Some radioactive isotopes from nukes are bioaccumulative - You eat them, they'll get stored in tissues for a long time emitting radiation and potentially creating cancer cells all along. The reason people are supposed to take iodine tablets after a nuke detonates is to flood your system with far more iodine than your body needs. Your thyroid will take up as much iodine as it can, then flush the rest. If you're then exposed to radioactive iodine, which is a common radioactive isotope from a nuke detonation, instead of your thyroid taking up and storing that idiodine it'll get passed through your system. Preemptively saturating your system with iodine greatly reduces your chance of getting thyroid cancer.
The biggest thing with a nuclear detonation, if you're not fried or burned up when every gas line in the city is ignited, is to get out from under the fallout plume. The fallout will be carried by the prevailing winds. If you're under the plume mover perpendicular to it until you're out of it then keep going. If you're not under it move away, preferably up-hill so you can get uncontaminated water.
After a few days all the really dirty, heavy particles will have fallen out of the plume, so the important thing becomes avoiding drinking contaminated water, eating contaminated food, kicking up and breathing in contaminated dust.
If all you have is a bandana or rag soaked in clean water that's still better than just raw-dogging the fallout.
The main killer for a nuke is the blast wave knocking over buildings and causing massive, city wide fires when all the gas lines cook off. Close to the center of the detonating people will get fired directly by the massively powerful burst of heat and x-rays, but that falls off pretty quickly bc square/cube law. Acute radiation poisoning is still a factor for quite a ways, but modern buildings will soak up a lot of the x-ray burst, protecting people inside from acute radiation damage. That won't help them, though because the blast wave of super heated air will hit like a force 5 hurricane and collapse almost all modern residential buildings and a lot of commercial buildings. And if it doesn't get them on the way out it'll get them on the way in as air rushes in to fill the vast vacuum caused by the detonation. So you get hit twice. and then everything catches fire bc gas lines.
So if nuke - Get a respirator, get as much clean water as you can, put on a rain coat or trash bags or whatever to keep fallout off your skin, and fuck off directly away from the mushroom cloud and the fallout plume. Don't eat or drink anything that's not in a sealed container, and then... uh... in any civilized country I'd say wait for government help but that's not going to happen in America so you can do whatever makes you feel good at that point.
They put the silos away from large cities because they are first or second targets. You could be in the middle of nowhere and surrounded by nukes in the US.
As much as I trust the US military to tell the entire world exactly where the most powerful ICBMs are located, I have a gut feeling there are some that are hidden to the public, the other nuke havers quietly know about.
Submarines, mostly. There are a bunch of boomers cruising around all over the place all the time with a bunch of missiles each. If the enemy doesn't know where the nuke subs are then there's nothing they can do to destroy them before they launch their nukes in retaliation.
we keep all ours on submarines afaik
with one storage location in scotlandedit: flicking through a parliamentary briefing document, there are also the manufacturing plants in berkshire where they are built and maintained
Yeah, the UK's whole nuclear deterrent is no one being certain where their subs are at any given moment so they can't take out the nuke subs and prevent the UK from launching a retaliatory strike.
Someone link that Limmy video of him going over the nuke location in Scotland.
"it's in the middle of no-where, completely away from people!" westminster insists while pointing at a place uncomfortably close to Glasgow
true, but prevailing wind would dump the fallout on my head most days of the year
Yeah I'm unsure exactly how it works, I know the most dangerous exposure from fallout is in the immediate aftermath, few days, then after that it's low enough to travel outside.
If you have to ask if you’re too close to a military asset, the answer is yes.
"Of course, we will not be the first to do [test weapons]. But if the United States tests, then we will," he said. "No one must be under any dangerous illusions that global strategic parity can be destroyed."
As tragic as it is - I get it. After shit like Cuba, Iraq, Israel, Iran, etc. why would you trust the US not to do something and blame you for retaliation? It's a grizzly, barbaric way to kill people and damage the planet, but comrade, the US would do it and then be self-righteous about how sad they were to have to do it to you.
WSJ and NYT columnists would be falling over each other to write heart-wrenching tales about how bad it made the psychopathic evangelical christian officers feel to press the launch buttons for a nuclear first strike
I read a very illuminating article on the purpose of Star Wars. It was never intended to shoot down all the missiles.
The math was that a US first strike using intermediate range ballistic missiles in Europe could kill enough of the USSR's ICBMs to greatly reduce the USSR's retaliatory launch. Star Wars was supposed to thin out the surviving missiles. Not to stop all of them, but to make the retaliatory strike survivable within certain parameters.
The whole point of Star Wars and contemporary nuclear missiles was to allow the US to launch a first-strike to slaughter the entire Soviet population and survive the retaliation with only 100 or 150 million causalities. You know, more than enough to get the economy back up and running.
Wanted to make a Star Wars joke but the last two sentences really took the air out of that balloon for me.
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What are you gonna do with that big bat? Better make it count. Better make it hurt. Better kill me in one shot.
