I’ve read about how it’s typically difficult for adults with autism to remain employed, and I can completely see why. Never been officially diagnosed, but I’m pretty sure it’s a foregone conclusion in the way that I constantly over analyze every action taken by my co-workers and supervisors
So yeah there’s definitely some ND thought here, but I also can’t seem to get past how fake everything feels. And it feels like I have to play along with their little game where they all assume different personalities between the hours of 9-5 instead of being themselves. Because contrary to popular belief, individuals aren’t beneficial to capitalism, drones are
I hate my brain
That's absolutely wack mentality. Sorry you aren't popular or good socially or whatever but be materialistic. Nepotism is a giant giant thing to discount. Also do you work in an office? You must be white collar. Service work is chock absolutely full of incredibly socially capable people. So capable it's their fucking job. Popularity isn't real outside of high school. Social skills and the ability to be popular can help and having bad social skills or barriers to operating socially well by ND standards can totally hamper one's ability to succeed in capitalism just like myriad other things, thar doesn't make it a primary force.
This is absolutely untrue. The markers of popularity change drastically outside of high school, but the underlying factors remain the same. In a technical field being "popular" is a small boon, but if climbing the ladder is something you're interested in then it's an essential part of the process. Competence can change the equation, but having people like you is big part of everything.
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i'd add that what constitutes "popular" can be reduced to people that smoothly fit the status quo culture. so even in academia, no the people that are well-regarded weren't popular in high school or whatever probably, but their social networking is the most important thing for their futures. they don't even necessarily have to be a good researcher themselves if they can command some skilled grad students to actually do the work.
Don't get a scheezy ladder climbing career?
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So, yeah. Sounds like white collar problems. Get a non bullshit job and these won't be problems. We can't all be highly paid.
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Social skills alone do not.get you higher on the ladder. In fact they generally hurt you cause they make you care about people around you.
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Okay, you're talking malevolent social skills, I'm talking just like...general social skills. You can have those and not be evil and plenty of people I know have very very good social skills and are in working class gigs because they are i would argue better socially than a.ladder climbing office creep. I think we're taking a different view on 'social skills' I'm just like, talking about being easy to get along with and all that stuff.
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Socially, yeah, there's a totally different approach. Light side of the force and dark side of the force stuff. Learning good social skills that are like positive for others around you and American psycho shot are very different things. Any therapist can tell you that.
You don’t know what social skills means. It doesn’t mean caring about the people around you. It means having a great ability to conform and knowing exactly how to act around the people you’re with.
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my sibling in christ, that describes most of the jobs people feasibly could get that will buy them bread and shelter. i'm looking at choosing between a job i can't socially navigate or not being able to buy a house to live in type shit.
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That 'greater simplification' is really something you're undermining. If this was true the most awful views of class would be true and the lower classes are simply lower due to their lack of social sophistication. Get that shit out of here.
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You're moving the goalpost
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Can you point me to one pf those positions? I really need money
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So....you couldn't take a pandering, competitive position to get ahead and benefit yourself as an individual?
Nobody here has a job and they read dumb shit like spinoza
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I think people here fundamentally misunderstood what GalaxyBrain was trying to explain. You don't climb up the corporate ladder by sucking up to your boss and applying everything you've read in some self-help book rehashing How to Win Friends and Influence People. How is this any different from following some grifter trying to peddle some get-rich-quick bullshit? People at the top of the corporate ladder are where they are because of nepotism. They didn't climb their way to the top but were placed there by their company owner parents. And if it's not because they have parents in high places, it's always some bullshit like how they and the company's founder go to the same church for over 10 years. It has nothing to do with merit, whether it's professional competence or social skills. They didn't Patrick Bateman their way to the top.
And speaking of Patrick Bateman, Bateman doesn't have good social skills at all. He's completely socially awkward. And he can't read people's faces. He didn't climb the corporate ladder with his terrible social skills and inability to read people's faces. He got to be vice president because his rich daddy owns the fucking company he's pretending to work in. That's literally it. The business card scene was literally the owner's shitty kid plus the shitty kids who have some personal relationship with the owners and members of the board jerking off over inconsequential shit. To buy into the idea of being able to climb a corporate ladder means buying into the idea of social mobility, even if done in an unsavory way. This is just capitalist realism. There is no social mobility.
It's a big club and you ain't in it.
Yes, thanks.
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The service workers that are more popular and likable with the management will have more opportunities to move up and get management positions. Neurodivergent service workers will be more likely to stay in the lowest paid positions.