Whenever I see that I've received a reply here I get a little dopamine hit and I think "oh man, time to see what my fellow chapos think of what I've said!". This is even true when I've been arguing for veganism. Sure, there may be some disagreement, but it probably won't be super, dishearteningly nasty.
By contrast, every single time I see that orange envelope on reddit I tend to feel a little pang of anxiety and my first thought is always "oh fuck, what did I comment on again? Am I about to get some literal hate speech thrown my way?"
So yeah, thanks friends! Someday I may even ditch reddit for good because of you, and my life would be better for it.
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Yo, you knew I'd say you should be a vegan. Come on, it's easier than you'd think and the food is damn tasty and cheap and you don't have to have a pang of conscience every time you eat a bit of dead animal. Let me know if you need help! You got this!
im not opposed to being vegan in theory, but then id have to give up honey and im like nah. avoiding meat consumption is praxis though
Alright, the occasional vegan will yell at me for this (and they're welcome to, I'm wrong about this) but do everything except honey. Eggs and dairy are the real devil. Honey will come (or maybe it won't, and, eh, fuck it kind of).
honestly, i view beekeeping as one of the best things people can do to try and stave off the inevitable collapse of our entire ecosystem, so... imma just never agree to getting rid of honey. sorry not sorry
On the one hand, I see that, on the other, well, honeybees are an invasive species in many places. If you want to raise pollinators, I'm super down, but honeybees aren't always it.
are they an invasive species? in north america, yes. does the entire system rely on bees existing? also yes. the issue as i see it is that native species are fucked regardless of nonnative honey bees out competing them, so having some kind of pollination thats easy to convince people to participate in is the best way to go to avoid system collapse. would i say no to someone wanting to go above and beyond that? no.
And here we're getting into the absolute weeds of what is the best thing to do? And, well, I'm not a scientist, I don't know. Once I have a place of my own where I'm going to be for the long term I'm going to do my research and see what pollinators are correct and how I can help them exist and do their best for the surrounding ecosystem. But until then, all I can do is be a little skeptical about honeybees and that's what I'm going to do, because honeybees aren't always the answer.
But yeah, I don't know, native species are pretty fucked, and honestly, so is everything else. I learned today that yeasts are evolving to live at higher temperatures and that means that soon they're going to be able to survive at human body temperatures. And that means that soon humans will be dying because they became a yeast colony. What a world, we're all fucked.
yep pretty much. agreed on all counts. if someone told me the sky was literally falling because, fuck i dont know, green house gasses are now causing boil off of the upper atmosphere or something... i would not even be surprised, cause hell world gonna hell world.
What are non invasive pollinators you can raise en masse? Monarch butterflies? Plus, and I know, I know, but no honey out of the deal.
Ah shit, you want me to do actual research!?! Also, maybe more importantly, that will depend on where you are.
And sure, I get it, the lack of honey is less than ideal, but that's what sugar is for, you know?
Plus you know that's on top of all the bad karma from its historical connection to indentured slavery in the Caribbean and Pacific.
Wait, are you being serious? Because if so I've got bad news for you friendo...
https://www.thoughtco.com/effect-of-sugar-on-the-environment-1204100
cut out everything you're willing to do. i started by just cutting out beef and eating a lot more meat free dishes. eventually i started removing more things. something is better than nothing
im a vegetablebarbarian already, so.. yes. agreed.
Nah, come join us on the vegan side. You won't even miss honey after a little while.
Also, vegans are cooler, sexier and hornier than omnis
mhm mhm okay but no. i appreciate the horny vegan posting though
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if you say so. pretty sure all the vegans round these parts would disagree with you though, cause stealing all that delicious liquid gold from bees is doing an animal exploitation. let alone eating that poor chickens completely unfertilized ovum. practically an unborn baby
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🤷 im just sayin, by your definition im already vegan, and by theirs im definitely not. soo.. imma just be over here eating an apple like an asshole