... it ran out days ago (assuming it didn't implode):
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The 96 hours thing comes from the Oceangate website factsheet. Do you think they ACTUALLY tested that by putting five people in it for 96 hours?
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Whatever went wrong with the sub (electrical failure, implosion) probably compromised the oxygen supply or made it redundant.
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The 96 hours assumes they breathed evenly. Do you think they weren't panicking and trashing and screaming and hyperventilating?
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Oxygen is only one part of the problem, the other is dangerous CO2 buildup. These subs have CO2 removal systems that need replacing every 10 hours or so. They would be inhaling dangerous levels of CO2 long before they ran out of oxygen.
They're mega, mega dead.
a properly built sub should ride high enough in the water that they could open the hatch on the surface and not take on water
this is of course not a properly built sub
Them being bolted inside is like the cherry on top to me. Sure it's not necessarily dangerous on its own, but add it to everything else about the sub (lack of emergency beacon, only communication via sms, using a knockoff madcatz controller, the general jankiness of the entire design) and having to rely on someone outside to extract you from the death tube even if you do somehow make it to the surface just seems like tempting fate, especially considering the company has lost contact with the "sub" for hours at a time before.
Hell, they didn't even paint the damn thing a visible colour, like orange or red. Imagine you actually make it to the surface in this thing and you still end up suffocating because they have to rely on seeing the stupid thing to find it
People have been fixating on certain details that I think are kind of silly, like them being bolted in from the outside
This isn't my take, SubBrief on YouTube brought this up on his video, but being bolted in and no way to escape in an oxygen rich environment is how the astronauts in Apollo 1 burned to death.
The point being that this company chose to ignore every engineering lesson that was paid for with lives.
It's the final logical conclusion of "move fast and break things"
If they're able to surface but there's no ship in sight, they could at least pop the hatch to breathe actual air instead of canned air. They could still asphyxiate while floating on the surface if the ship never found them.
I'm starting to like this free market, I was on the fence when it was just making F-35s be scared of rain but it's really starting to grow on me
They'd also drown if they did it at the surface
Not if they had a really big snorkel lol
I understand how that adds to the fear factor and sense of claustrophobia but what the hell would be the point of them being able to open it?
the fact that if you come up somewhere else you don't suffocate while the rescue teams look for you. Allthough I guess "coming up somewhere unknown" wasn't really ever a scenario here.
It would be a miracle if they found you and got to you before the ~10-20 minutes it takes to die of hypothermia once you're in the cold ocean.
US Coast Guard reports that an ROV has found a debris field near the Titanic: https://twitter.com/USCGNortheast/status/1671907901542211584
Not yet confirmed if it's the Titan, but if it is, lol, lmao. That's what they get for firing the safety guy when he said the sub wasn't safe, dumbasses.
Update: Coast Guard confirmed it was Titan. Carbon fiber hull catastrophically imploded.
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I was right.
https://hexbear.net/comment/3547269
Always the same story.
Sweet, I can make fun of the bozos without shuddering to think of such a long, torturous death
God damn some of those comments are so tongue deep in the boot
It is, however, significant news how 5 lives were lost specifically regarding a story that’s received this much attention worldwide. Also because, you know, they’re humans. Regardless of reasons we believe they shouldn’t haven taken the risk.
Hahaha holy shit and they got the fuckin' Blue Check of course
I'm pretty sure they were dead before they reached the Titanic. Having learned about the subs design I have 0 doubts they were reduced to a soup like homogenate due to that window failing way before they reached close to the titanic's depth
I personally think it's the carbon-fiber hull they used, which is a novel design for a deep dive submersible. Like they already had to do a rebuild of the sub due to cyclic stress in like 2020. Also carbon-fiber is known for brittle failure, like they could have carefully inspected the vessel after every dive (which they probably didn't do anyway) and never found the microscopic crack that would burst open on the next dive.
Like overall it was just such a horrible design, these rich guys are basically just playing Russian roulette, which honestly might be part of the reason why they got on.
Love to use carbon fiber for my submarine, a material famous for giving you 0 notification about impending catastrophical failure
I'm still trying to figure out why they used carbon fibre. Isn't it used in situations where you're desperately trying to save mass, like high-end bicycles, and rockets like Rocket Lab's Electron? What's the point of that in a deep submersible where even a thick steel hull is still naturally bouyant due to the air inside?
I think its literally becuase its cheaper. Like most submersibles use very specialized grades of titanium and often cost several tens of millions of dollars to build. Like on paper carbon-fiber has the same strength and corrosion resistance as titanium but is also brittle and prone to manufacturing defects.
Interesting. So basically while a not-to-spec titanium hull would start making noise under pressure and thus warn the passengers, this thing just had a microcrack buildup from the constant pressure cycles and shattered like a microchip wafer.
I had not idea carbon fibre was so finicky but hey I'm not the guy trusting my life with it.
Perhaps it lowered transit costs for bringing the sub here and there above water
It certainly lowered the costs of bringing it back this time
It could have been so many things though. The thing had zero redundancies in it anywhere, even just a single thruster failing would stop them having control.
I don't get cheaping out on this when you're actually going to use the thing yourself. It's one thing to cut corners when others' lives are at stake (par for the capitalist course), but I looked up the cost of one of the vessels that went to the deepest point in the ocean (~3x the depth of the Titanic wreck) and it was $37 million. A billionaire could buy that shit in cash if they wanted to...boggles the mind.
Dude was such a massive sucker that he actually believed in the SV horseshit about innovation. It's reminiscient of the rubes who didn't get vaxxed and then died.
The left underestimates how many people are actually just really stupid and not knowingly gaming the system.
It's not the sub's first trip, I agree that it's sketchy but it really could've failed at any point.
Maybe it was all a front for them faking their death and go live forever in Epstein Island 2.0
these people aren't built for anonymous hiding out they need people to boss around and social events where everyone lauds them for being such big rich boys
I've been saying this all along. Any rescue efforts are just purely done out of the OceanGate company trying to salvage their image. That sub went down in about half an hour as terminal velocity would be s but under 12 mph or 5 m/s. There is no way that thing is going to handle that fall. If there was a knocking sound, it was probably the giant squid trying to get a taste of human soup.
If anyone actually takes a ride on this company's death traps ever again, it should be under the same legal considerations as signing up for assisted euthanasia.
Are you saying the sub was destroyed by an ocean floor impact at 5 m/s? How do you deduce the submarine lost control during decent?
Duh, obviously. They were probably dead before any of us read the news for the first time. Still think it's funny imagining a bunch of billionaires twiddling their thumbs at the bottom of the ocean in a soda can.
If I were a billionaire in a tin can about to die from ocean, I would simply pay Poseidon to get me out. Just built different I guess.
While in a craft named after the enemies of the Olympians? Nah, Poseidon had standards.
my theory is that the window broke water rushed in and they drowned. I think the window would break before they got to pressures that would kill someone
they died of being in the ocean though
If the window broke, the metal-cutting pressure kills you piercing or compacting your whole body way before you think about "breathing"
Plus, I'm sure the whole sub was dependent on every part for structural integrity. The window goes, everything else implodes at the speed of sound.
The window was rated for 1300 m. The byford dolphin went down to a third of that. The titanic is at 4000 m.
The window was rated for 1300 m
The titanic is at 4000 m
The more I read about it the more it's confirmed for me that they deserved it
More than enough to instantly homogenize them.
Also well within the range of any sperm whale joining the protracted orcas war.
I'm pretty sure the titanic is at 13000 meters. we just stop depth rating at 4k meters, for whatever reason. my assumption is that they were supposed to use 4k windows and replace them regularly and instead went with something 1/3 as resilient.
Oceangate owner was like "I have a great playlist for while you're descending"
When asked about some of the music files on his work computer, the intern merely said "I enjoyed some of the harder soundtracks for games I played on the Sega Saturn," but investigators remain wary of him having a folder titled "bit-crushed heavy metal jams".
Counterpoint: They're rich, and rich people have no ethics. As soon as at least one of them realized that oxygen is limited, one killed the rest of them to get more air for longer, if it didn't just implode.
to shreds you say?
