• Call Me Mañana@lemmy.ml
    hexagon
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    1 month ago

    All due respect to my fellow Americans, but I hope with all my heart that Amerikkka falls as low as Babylon.

      • Call Me Mañana@lemmy.ml
        hexagon
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        1 month ago

        There's some good people in the streets, mainly from the black and immigrant community, but I suppose these people are not really considered "American" there...

          • Call Me Mañana@lemmy.ml
            hexagon
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            1 month ago

            I'm not judging you. My initial impetus for my comment was to say that I hoped all of Amerikkka would be nuked. Then I remembered my comrades there, including the indigenous people I forgot to mention earlier. We have to give them a fair country...

            And maybe that means killing most of the white population there.

            • radiofreeval [she/her]
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              30 days ago

              Most of the white population in America is working class and not assigned racist at birth, but Rather made racist through propaganda. The issue with America is not that the cumskins have a racism gene, but that they are racist because the material conditions of America demands racism to keep quality of life up for those people. However, most of them are working class and do have revolutionary potential in that regard and have historically had revolutionary potential. I think xi-plz is not an effective way of ending American imperialism and the boot of capitalism.

              • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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                29 days ago

                I'm sorry sis; but this is the one place I disagree with you. I don't disagree with the "not assigned racist at birth"; but where I disagree is that I don't think those maladaptive teachings ever will 'come out in the wash'. Not without every single person who COULD pass on racist teachings to potential offspring going child-free or otherwise dying before they could conceive; and cutting it off at a generational level.

                For every out, loud, and proud bigot in Amerikan society, there's two dozen of the vermin under the nearest rotting log. I see it as the older brother to the incel movement; you can ban an incel off every mainstream social media platform on the planet, completely silence him, and he'll still find somewhere to stew with those of like mind. It'd take a catastrophe of size that has never been seen in this country, and a coming together that couldn't be imagined for me to believe that there'd ever be revolutionary potential in a white Amerikan.

                • radiofreeval [she/her]
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                  29 days ago

                  Deadicalization when in comes to racist beliefs does exist however it is slow and faulty at best. A mass reeducation is required and you'd need to judge the efficacy of the program while doing it and tweak it as needed when it comes to white Americans. Historically, I'd argue that there has been revolutionary potential in white Americans such as John Brown, Eugene V Debs, United Mine Workers and arguably the Young Patriots Organization. While parts of these organizations and people gave problematic aspects, there has been revolution potential in them. While the present material conditions demand racism and prevent mass revolutionary conscience for America as a whole, a change in material conditions could lead to white Americans becoming a revolutionary group as capitalism does not benefit them as much as socialism would.

                  I agree with you that most white Americans do not have revolutionary potential now; I disagree with you in that they could with a change in material conditions and that a minority do at present time.

            • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 month ago

              Can't include the people that Amerikkka already purposely excluded, so they weren't targeted by your comment? Idk how to phrase it better rn.

                • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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                  1 month ago

                  Anyone who isn't white, cis, and heteronormative is excluded to some extent by American society. If they aren't treated as "true" Americans, then you saying you want to nuke Americans would already exclude nuking those that Americans themselves chose to exclude.

                  I just meant you didn't need to explicitly say you wouldn't also nuke comrades.

            • kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              1 month ago

              That actual racism out on display lmao. Replace white with black, indigenous, Jewish and you’d be banned in a second. You people are fucking deranged.

              • Call Me Mañana@lemmy.ml
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                1 month ago

                "That actual racism out on display [...] Replace white with black, indigenous, Jewish and you’d be banned in a second"

                Reverse racist rhetoric? Where have I ever seen that? Oh, in white supremacists.

                Do you know why I would be banned if I exchanged white for absolutely any other ethnicity? Because, historically, it was the white elite that went out to exploit the rest of the world and created racism as a "scientific" justification for doing so. So, for any eventual "oppression" (OMG, the Call Me Mañana on lemmy.ml said that for my country to be fair the majority of the white population would need to die, I'm so scared) against white people be considered racism, you would have to rewrite history (and that's what white supremacists do, by the way).

              • Egon [they/them]
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                30 days ago

                And what if they'd written out the entirety of Mein Kampf instead of what they'd written? Wow that really says something! Makes you think.

              • radiofreeval [she/her]
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                30 days ago

                You don't like pasta? Now replace pasta with Jews. That's pretty antisemitic of you.

                • kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  30 days ago

                  I'm not judging you. My initial impetus for my comment was to say that I hoped all of Amerikkka would be nuked. Then I remembered my comrades there, including the indigenous people I forgot to mention earlier. We have to give them a fair country...

                  And maybe that means killing most of the black*** population there.

                  *** I replaced white with black to hopefully have these people see how deranged they sound.

                  • radiofreeval [she/her]
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                    30 days ago

                    Replacing words in a way that fundamentally changes an argument fundamentally changes an argument, that is correct.

                    • kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      30 days ago

                      How is that changing the argument? They are saying they want it murder a race of people, that’s fucked and they should be called out on it.

                      • radiofreeval [she/her]
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                        29 days ago

                        Just stop with the 'reverse racism' nonsense if you don't want to be called a white supremacist.

                          • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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                            29 days ago

                            Can't be supremacy if we were never once on top. Best case scenario is a "two-state solution", as it were. If you think the Black desire for self-determination and a state away from cracker base, systems, and superstructure is "supremacy", you've got a handful of ignorant microaggressions that it's on you to check.

                            Address the plank in thine own eye before attending to the splinter in thy neighbor's, peckerwood.

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              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                30 days ago

                Simply don't be part of the most then? There's nothing stopping you from just choosing to be cool right now

              • xkyfal18@lemmygrad.ml
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                29 days ago

                Ignoring all historical context and making this bullshit claim is easy. Replace "X" with "Y" is NOT a valid argument.

      • Call Me Mañana@lemmy.ml
        hexagon
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        1 month ago

        Disco Elysium is so good that I even liked the "ultra-liberal" character. Only the fascists (minus René and Measurehead) and the Coalition guys are really impossible to like. But that's because they were so well written.

    • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml
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      30 days ago

      Babylon stayed an important center of economy, culture and administration for centuries after its empire was gone. I only wish complete obliteration to the USA. May it split up and never reunite.