We won't have any realistic solutions to international issues like climate change, wage/chattel slavery, and the protection of basic human rights until an international institution has the power to affect those changes.
So the question is: How does humanity enact an international representative government?
Do you think an international body with a variety of ideological perspectives, some capitalist, some centrist, some communist etc, could solve those problems
I'm not a communist, and I wouldn't speak for them.
As a Social Democrat I'd like to see international organizations with teeth that can actually enforce climate policies. Currently under WTO rules international corporations can just move shop to avoid rules.
Well I think that situation would define winning for communists, sure. Personally I think if there was an international body where all parties were anti-capitalist, who then could control resource management and development of the world via a system of dispersed democratic committee from the bottom up, that would be the only thing that could save our planet from mass extinction, and also the only thing that could create social structures that don’t allow for worker exploitation. But in my mind there’s a lot of folks who would consider themselves leftists who are not anti-capitalists. Which, clock ticking, what do we do? I’m curious if we have enough time to continue the decades and decades of capitalist-communist argument that’s gotten us to where we are now, if that argument would move us forward through time still without changing economic structures, you know? Cause capitalism is the current mode of production. So that’s gonna continue until it’s stopped. What’s gonna stop it?
I think you need to separate the idea of "having a capitalist economy and liberal-democratic political system" and that of "supporting free market politics." We live under these systems not because they have overwhelming support, but because they have been handed down to us and are very difficult to change. For the most part, around the world people live under capitalism against their will.
Perhaps it comes down to whether or not you believe that, ecologically at the very least, we have time to humor the arguments for a system that has caused 2/3rds of wildlife extinction just within the last 50 years
We won't have any realistic solutions to international issues like climate change, wage/chattel slavery, and the protection of basic human rights until an international institution has the power to affect those changes.
So the question is: How does humanity enact an international representative government?
I wish I knew the answer to that.
Yeah I agree. Are there shortcomings of the Internationale you consider?
Yeah, it excludes non-communists.
Not everyone is a communist.
Do you think an international body with a variety of ideological perspectives, some capitalist, some centrist, some communist etc, could solve those problems
It is better than the alternative.
Do you really think communists will win out if all ideologies except one are excluded?
deleted by creator
I agree, but I don't want to live in a society that only allows either neoliberal or communist solutions.
deleted by creator
You are acting like most people sit down and hash out their ideology instead of adopting it piecemeal as they stumble through life.
Why should folks who aren't ardent and consistent in their beliefs be denied their voice? Also, who is going to determine this purity?
what part of "socialism or barbarism" don't you get?
what do you consider a communist solution to climate change?
I'm not a communist, and I wouldn't speak for them.
As a Social Democrat I'd like to see international organizations with teeth that can actually enforce climate policies. Currently under WTO rules international corporations can just move shop to avoid rules.
well guess what buddy those are your choices and were actually willing to allow liberal thought and expression just not fucking property relations
Well I think that situation would define winning for communists, sure. Personally I think if there was an international body where all parties were anti-capitalist, who then could control resource management and development of the world via a system of dispersed democratic committee from the bottom up, that would be the only thing that could save our planet from mass extinction, and also the only thing that could create social structures that don’t allow for worker exploitation. But in my mind there’s a lot of folks who would consider themselves leftists who are not anti-capitalists. Which, clock ticking, what do we do? I’m curious if we have enough time to continue the decades and decades of capitalist-communist argument that’s gotten us to where we are now, if that argument would move us forward through time still without changing economic structures, you know? Cause capitalism is the current mode of production. So that’s gonna continue until it’s stopped. What’s gonna stop it?
Over half of the world supports free market political parties.
It is utopian to suggest they should be excluded from an international organization.
I think you need to separate the idea of "having a capitalist economy and liberal-democratic political system" and that of "supporting free market politics." We live under these systems not because they have overwhelming support, but because they have been handed down to us and are very difficult to change. For the most part, around the world people live under capitalism against their will.
Perhaps it comes down to whether or not you believe that, ecologically at the very least, we have time to humor the arguments for a system that has caused 2/3rds of wildlife extinction just within the last 50 years
So what is your solution?
Deny billions of people a voice in governance?
deleted by creator
class traitors