is anyone kicking non black people out of the march? idk i'm very sympathetic to what this post is trying to say but conflating this with literal segregation just seems like exactly what a chud would say in response to something like this
You're right, I should have been more nuanced and serious in my response, but I also really fuckin' needed to scream and capslock was the best I could do. :\
This is not a stupidpol type critique. Yes of course, the pigs' victims are primarily poor people and have a massive bias toward non white people. Follow the logic - this makes putting black people in the front much much more susceptible to being harmed. Lib identity politics absolutely need to be criticized.
Do you think the black women pictured are unaware of that? Do you think they need you or anyone else to inform them of that? And to tell them how they should protest?
"woke points" is absolutely stupidpol shit, as is the denial of agency and intelligence of the women pictured that is inherent to these claims.
I'm not telling them how to do anything, I'm just posting online. I disagree with their tactics and I'm voicing my disagreement here, as are many others, which is totally fair game. It sounds like you're insinuating people are being racist for disagreeing with black women, which is super lib shit. Listen to basically any black anti-capitalist and they will warn of liberal identity politics distracting from the real problem (racist capitalism). "Woke points" are ABSOLUTELY being scored by capitalists EVERY DAY and this needs to be called the fuck out. YES that includes black capitalists!
More importantly, every black woman / gender fluid person I know / have met at protests / have seen on twitter emphasize the point that if anything, white people should organize to the front, as like I said, cops are less likely to hurt white people. <-- this is the predominant point I've heard people make and I agree with this much more than the tweet posted above.
Though my own personal opinion (if I'm allowed to have one lol) is that in a protest it doesn't really matter that much, from my experience I've seen pigs beating people pretty indiscriminately.
Do you think the black women pictured are ignorant of what you've said? Do you think that maybe they knowingly chose to put themselves at risk, perhaps for a reason?
The only mention of racism here came from you, btw.
I’m not telling them how to do anything, I’m just posting online. I disagree with their tactics and I’m voicing my disagreement here
This is cowardly hair splitting. You're not telling them how to do anything, you're just posting online that they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.
The subject of this thread is race and idpol so I assumed your mention of idpol was a race and idpol issue? And no, of course I want them to protest. And I commend them for putting themselves at risk. I just agree with OP that it's a shit tactic and tactical discussion is important for a leftist insurrection to succeed.
So let's stop the convo right here and say that you won because this is just painfully insignificant IRL - protesting is good, black people are oppressed, capitalism needs to be abolished.
is anyone kicking non black people out of the march? idk i'm very sympathetic to what this post is trying to say but conflating this with literal segregation just seems like exactly what a chud would say in response to something like this
You're right, I should have been more nuanced and serious in my response, but I also really fuckin' needed to scream and capslock was the best I could do. :\
There's stupidpol leaking into here, it seems. Did people forget who the pigs' victim was?
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Maybe you should go over there and tell them how they're supposed to do what they're doing.
for real carl exactly!
This is not a stupidpol type critique. Yes of course, the pigs' victims are primarily poor people and have a massive bias toward non white people. Follow the logic - this makes putting black people in the front much much more susceptible to being harmed. Lib identity politics absolutely need to be criticized.
Do you think the black women pictured are unaware of that? Do you think they need you or anyone else to inform them of that? And to tell them how they should protest?
"woke points" is absolutely stupidpol shit, as is the denial of agency and intelligence of the women pictured that is inherent to these claims.
I'm not telling them how to do anything, I'm just posting online. I disagree with their tactics and I'm voicing my disagreement here, as are many others, which is totally fair game. It sounds like you're insinuating people are being racist for disagreeing with black women, which is super lib shit. Listen to basically any black anti-capitalist and they will warn of liberal identity politics distracting from the real problem (racist capitalism). "Woke points" are ABSOLUTELY being scored by capitalists EVERY DAY and this needs to be called the fuck out. YES that includes black capitalists!
More importantly, every black woman / gender fluid person I know / have met at protests / have seen on twitter emphasize the point that if anything, white people should organize to the front, as like I said, cops are less likely to hurt white people. <-- this is the predominant point I've heard people make and I agree with this much more than the tweet posted above.
Though my own personal opinion (if I'm allowed to have one lol) is that in a protest it doesn't really matter that much, from my experience I've seen pigs beating people pretty indiscriminately.
Do you think the black women pictured are ignorant of what you've said? Do you think that maybe they knowingly chose to put themselves at risk, perhaps for a reason?
The only mention of racism here came from you, btw.
This is cowardly hair splitting. You're not telling them how to do anything, you're just posting online that they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.
The subject of this thread is race and idpol so I assumed your mention of idpol was a race and idpol issue? And no, of course I want them to protest. And I commend them for putting themselves at risk. I just agree with OP that it's a shit tactic and tactical discussion is important for a leftist insurrection to succeed.
So let's stop the convo right here and say that you won because this is just painfully insignificant IRL - protesting is good, black people are oppressed, capitalism needs to be abolished.
Fair enough. I see black women willfully leading a protest against police murdering a black woman, my first thought is not to criticize them.
Yeah fair.