• Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    "Road transport in North Korea is very limited — only 724 kilometers of the 25,554 kilometer road network are paved, and maintenance on most roads is poor"

    It's almost like they're under crushing sanctions and blockades by the entire western "free market" and making it impossible to secure resources needed to maintain their society. But no, Korean man bad.

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      maintenance on most roads is poor

      Aren't all US bridges designated "about to collapse" or something like that

      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        if they arnt they should be. fucking death traps waiting to happen. theres several bridges around me that have visible deformation and heavy breaking along their underside. but they fix the pot holes sometimes so its fine :this-is-fine:

    • SweetCheeks [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      i hope when korean reunification happens china will build the bri through korea accelerating the DPRK's development to the fastest ever seen in history.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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        4 years ago

        Sadly that most likely isn't happening anytime soon due to the stranglehold the reactionaries have over the Korean government and the -I shit you not- koch funded far-right wing propaganda machine that constantly pushes red scare on the Korean population.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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            4 years ago

            The ROK's managed to claw enough back enough national clout that they can steer their destiny without being dictated what to do by the U.S.

            For example if - Allah forbid it - the U.S decides to declare war upon the PRC, then the ROK would most likely adopt a policy of neutrality as it's best course of action as they would literally be THE FRONTLINE of any land invasion attempted against the PRC. The Indochinese countries that border the PRC may have varying degrees of agreement or hostility to the PRC, but they wouldn't want American invaders on their soils again. The last possible avenue of land invasion for the U.S would be via the Indian subcontinent through the Himalayas, and those are near-impossible for us to move an adequate invasion force through. Now one might reason that the ROK could be pushed to capitulate to U.S demands through economic threats, but if you should understand one thing about Korea as a whole peninsula, it's that the scars inflicted by the Korean war are still there and the genocidal extermination of Koreans from American brutality are still in the collective subconscious the the people of The Land of the Morning Calm.

  • Parysian [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The captions make me think these are supposed to be damning, but if you told me these were published by the NK gov to make their country look good I'd believe you. The rural areas look borderline idyllic, the restaurants look normal, the young people are all hot, the streets are clean. Seems like a normal ass country the way it's depicted here.

    • HarryLime [any]
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      4 years ago

      There's more people in military uniforms than I'd feel comfortable seeing on the street, not quite as much food in the market shot as I'd like, and the roads could use some repair, but it seems okay apart from that. And those last two things are understandable given their lack of resources and how cut off from the world they are. We have an absurd amount of money and resources in America, and they're literally unpaving the roads in rural areas.

      One caption said something about a "bleak concrete apartment tower," and...okay? So what if they have some ugly concrete buildings? I drive by ugly buildings every day.

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          dousing my home with kerosene to cover up the smell of my wifes baking darn communists with their breads, ruining my sense of smell

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's not even ugly, it's just a cool brutalist building.

        • HarryLime [any]
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          4 years ago

          Like a thousand people here will yell at me for saying this, but I happen to think brutalism is pretty ugly a lot of the time. Or at least kind of bleak.

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            its an aesthetic, you dont have to personally like it.

            personally i like the "organic" new brutalism stuff that frank lloyd wright was onto.

            • HarryLime [any]
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              4 years ago

              personally i like the “organic” new brutalism stuff that frank lloyd wright was onto.

              Interesting, can you link some pictures?

              • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                image off the frank lloyd wright website.

                the bottom left is a really gorgeous example of the idea, was his personal home

                • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  I love FLW, but I would describe his style as more of praire style with some sharp lines and natural incorporation. His houses tended to be be pretty short and long and it's the long lines and kind of war colours that give it a good aesthetic, which is pretty different to brutalism

                  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    brutalism traditionally just means its a structure with exposed concrete. the term "brutalism" as used in architectural discourse today is literally in reference to what is more properly called "new brutalism" a chief proponant of which was FLW with his "organic" movement.

                    saying its not brutalism because it incorporates colourful elements is nonsense.

                    tldr: brutalism has multiple styles, and is defined by its use of exposed concrete.

                    • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      Fair enough. I’m not really an expert on brutalist, just a fan of FLW. I do think though that unfortunately his style doesn’t hold up as well for large buildings, most of his are single units and I tend to associate brutalism with larger multi unit buildings. I’d have to see some more brutalist buildings to develop a proper opinion. Some of the flat soviet ones are kinda boring and plain, but I like habitat 67 in Montreal. Pretty sure that became a bougie place to live though.

                      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                        4 years ago

                        yeah, the style is tricky to scale upwards i could agree with that, but i wouldnt say its impossible to implement. just takes careful consideration, which is sadly lacking when the concern is profit rather than living standard.

                        either way, its still a good entry point for people who think brutalism by its inherent nature is ugly, since.. yknow.. obvious refutation

      • WetAssPossum [they/them,ey/em]
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        4 years ago

        “bleak concrete apartment tower,”

        Glad we don't have those in America

        Wait, I live in one of those, except it's stick frame instead of concrete, so it's a massive fire trap.

      • Amorphous [any]
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        4 years ago

        not quite as much food in the market shot as I’d like

        in the US we have so much food that our homeless people starve to death while hiding from the cops behind a locked dumpster full of fresh food

        the barbaric north koreans have such empty stores because they dare to give the food to the people instead of hoarding it all for show. absolutely monstrous, how dare they

        • HarryLime [any]
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          4 years ago

          I'm not blaming North Korea for the relative lack of food- they're under punishing sanctions and isolation and they have limited arable land. And yeah, the fact that hunger in America is even a problem given the tremendous abundance of food and resources we have is monstrous.

          • Amorphous [any]
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            4 years ago

            oh yeah, sorry if it sounded like i was directing that at you. kinda just ranting about it

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "Car ownership is rare"

    Ok, good.

    But seriously fuck cars.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Oh no people using public transport instead of an endless sea of cars

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        4 years ago

        Like sis not every society has a dystopian 90 minute highway commute into the city. Maybe it's your country that's broken af.

  • lad [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Look at these DEPRESSING and BLEAK high rise buildings -> proceeds to show super normal looking building you would find anywhere

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      You dont understand, we need to carpet bomb this country back into the stone age (again) because their buildings are too grey

    • ocho [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Koreans: literally just chilling

      These journalists: AHH OPPRESSIVE EVIL DICTATORSHIP WE HAD TO SNEAK THESE IMAGES OUT WE CAN'T COME BACK

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      and then they show us bumpercars.

      ohhh noooo, not an amusement park!

      so secret. so brave. pulitzer prize when?

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    UNDER THE WATCHFUL EYE OF A SOLDIER

    [while kneeling on George Floyd's neck] "North Korea is a police state!!!!!1!"

  • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Its amazing what imperial media can do to propagandize and distort people's views of countries that the us empire has deemed an enemy. Its also sad that "leftists" still dont understand this and still believe everything they're told about other countries.

    • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Tbh, I used to just give a tepid "DPRK is probably no worse than any other third world country" to my friends, but now I just Juche gang to spite them

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's actually way better than other third world countries lol. Look at how clean the city is and how beautiful the metro station is. Even the richer third world countries like South Africa have dilapidated trash-covered cities and even Amerikkka would never have a train station that nice.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    o no their country has dirt roads no country in the west has that!

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      what a shithole i say as i view the picture of a dirt road in north korea, behind me, out the curtainless window and across the alleyway of broken glass, the shattered asphalt oceans gleam in the night

  • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    I didn't read any of the captions. The sheer absence of traffic almost made me weep. Seems like a lot of normal people going about their lives. Noticeably lacking any pics of starvation in hard labor camps.

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Trains? Idyllic countryside? Clean roads and streets? Looks nice, maybe I should visit this North Korea. Thank you very much telegraph for providing me my next holiday location!

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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          4 years ago

          Nah fam, lets just take a vacation to the PRC and visit the Liaoning, Jilin, and Heilongjiang provinces. Remember that whatever happens in the PRC stays in the PRC, and to leave any western electronics you bring with you in your hotel when you tour the region.

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            i feel like youre trying to make some kind of point about something to do with china bad, but honestly what youve said just unironically sounds like a good time...

            ???