Struggle session engage. Post your pathetic arguments so that I and the other China Good Posters can dismantle them and you can learn.

Key points:

  • China is a democracy. It is arguably the most functional and responsive democracy in a major country today. Its citizens consider it more democratic than the citizens of almost any other country do their own.

  • China is on a clear path to socialism and economic justice. No nation in history has ever reduced poverty in anything like the way China is doing it.

  • The vast majority of people in the PRC support the CPC. This is not due to being brainwashed. Americans are brainwashed and still hate their government.

  • Almost everything you hear about China in the West sits on a spectrum between malicious misrepresentation to outright fabrication with no basis in reality.

  • China's ascension to the premiere global power is an extremely good thing for world peace and the global socialist movement. While China does not actively support other socialisms (sadly it's not as good as the USSR in this regard) it does not do imperialism. China will allow socialisms around the world to flourish simply by not actively crushing them like the US and Europe.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Cuba has been able to sustain itself post the fall of the USSR in part because of its relationship to Venezuela and their energy resources, but the current situation in Venezuela has hindered that so yes they do rely on China a bit as a result.

      For the wests hegemonic strength to go away, China would need to do a lot of things very differently from how it exists right now.

      The truth is I don't think China can be trusted, there's an incredibly cursed relationship between the global elite and the Chinese communist party with their leaders speaking at shit like Davos. I think cuban socialism is broadly a much better model as they've redirected virtually all economic growth into increased healthcare spending over anything else.

      • DornerBros [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Cuba isn't playing for all the marbles, to do that it would need to inspire revolution within the imperialist core. Until that happens, it's helpless against imperialist aggression and can be crippled by economic warfare and military interventions, there's nothing stopping it from becoming the next Venezuela or the next Bolivia.

        Of course China has strong nationalist tendencies, even within the ruling party, of course their goal is to join and eventually supplant the global elite, those cursed relationships are giving the CPC influence with and eventually influence over global capitalists. Even if you're skeptical of the CPC's aims you should still recognize that Cuba and other countries in the Global South stand to benefit a ton from an alternative world order and system for global trade beyond American hegemony, it's the only path towards long term stability and prosperity for peripheral countries like Cuba.