Remember 10 years ago when everyone thought that was the coolest thing to say?
Plz, don't slander my boy Robespierre, Jacobins were nothing like liberals, they were protosocialists.
How am I supposed to understand what that means if I'm not a lib?
"Yeah, I'm uh, a South Park Republican. You drive a Prius? You're, uh, a gay hippie, hahaha. Fuck the environment, dude, you don't care about the environment, you just want a nice place to live. You're actually more selfish than me for caring about things. Human nature."
Every single longform political discussion with every single person to the political right of Bernie Sanders will eventually, inevitably dead end at "human nature." It's like Godwin's Law but for even bigger losers. It's one of the laziest rhetorical cop outs next to "it's God's will." These spineless, visionless dorks are too scared of implicating themselves, personally, in participating in this monstrous system.
"Even if we replaced it with something, the same thing would arise. Human nature."
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
Fuck the environment, dude, you don’t care about the environment, you just want a nice place to live.
Living in my own filth to Own The Libs.
This reputation comes from Carter fucking up the economy with stagflation, and then Reagan coming in and changing the playing field entirely.
The democrats are genuinely better for the economy by the same metrics used to make people think the Republicans knew about this stuff in the first place. It's actually gotten to the point where republicans just do what democrats previously did that they opposed.
Which is also hilarious because Carter was a pro-austerity fiscal conservative, but Reagan was all about corporate keynesianism (pitting him against the paleocon wing of the Republican party).
Yeah people forget how there was real backlash from the paleocon wing, hell, I'm still pretty sure that's who made up the core of the Reform party back in the day. Trump can probably be described as a paleocon.
Isn't it pretty clear that Nixon actually caused stagflation to be so bad in the United States? I mean, world wide it was the crash of the post war boom but I doubt Carter could've created such a big problem so quickly.
He did cause it, but no one blamed him for it. Also his economic policy was fairly new deal like.
I agree, but Nixon is lumped in with democrats as it related to that same form of FDR style economic system that existed before Reagan.
no, ten years ago i remember people thinking 'obamas finally gonna fucking change this shit.'
the idea that the urge of the populous hasn't been pretty much the same this entire time hurts us . obama got into position because he ran on a platform of positive change for the populous. he literally ran on a populist platform. he didn't deliver. then trump beat him because obama disenfranchised the fucking progressive base and lit a fire under the racist republican base.
bernie ran as a fucking socialist, a populist, fighting for us, and had to be fucked out of the fucking win.
this shit ten years ago was never popular to say, people just thought obama was someone he wasn't, i voted for him the first time, just like everybody else. an uninformed lib, new to voting i was.
"I just want to give token social reforms without actually addressing the underlying problems in society that's leading to so much misrery. Why is that so bad?"
Low key this died the day Trump stopped trying on the stimulus. I think even that Saggar dude from rising realised it.
I don't think Sagger is an especially hardcore Trump supporter. I think he's just an FDR democrat that has just spent too much time around DC neocons to the point where he's not yet willing to admit that's what happened.
Remember that during the time between FDR and really Nixon, dems and republicans were pretty equally positioned on social issues.
I always heard it as fiscally conservative, socially liberal - but still obnoxious
