Either of them are infinitely more successful than any leftist movement in the U.S. Dismissing the methods of some of the most recent leftists to have gained real power is absurd.
Losing the URSS and the rest of countries was a disaster
Absolutely; I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. What I'm saying is that -- post-USSR -- we have examples of leftists gaining power through elections.
How anyone can reach this conclusion is beyond me. Bernie -- not even an unusually strong candidate -- was the clear frontrunner in the primary until he got kneecapped by unprecedented (and lucky) Democratic coordination. They're not too strong; eight months ago they were all getting their asses beat by an old man from a state most people forget who had to build a political base from scratch.
How many times do we need to repeat this to you to understand? The conditions for revolution in a colonized state and a colonizer state are not the same?
As I've mentioned elsewhere -- to you, in this thread -- no one knows how to create socialism in the imperial core. Writing off electoralism when no one has a surefire answer is ridiculous.
Either of them are infinitely more successful than any leftist movement in the U.S. Dismissing the methods of some of the most recent leftists to have gained real power is absurd.
Absolutely; I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. What I'm saying is that -- post-USSR -- we have examples of leftists gaining power through elections.
Yes, I get it, but the motherfuckers are too strong.
How anyone can reach this conclusion is beyond me. Bernie -- not even an unusually strong candidate -- was the clear frontrunner in the primary until he got kneecapped by unprecedented (and lucky) Democratic coordination. They're not too strong; eight months ago they were all getting their asses beat by an old man from a state most people forget who had to build a political base from scratch.
its entirely delusional to think Bernie was ever going to win or that real change could come from such a thing
"I lost so that means I never had any chance at winning" = :cope:
i'm sure voting will work next time!!!!
How many times do we need to repeat this to you to understand? The conditions for revolution in a colonized state and a colonizer state are not the same?
As I've mentioned elsewhere -- to you, in this thread -- no one knows how to create socialism in the imperial core. Writing off electoralism when no one has a surefire answer is ridiculous.
VOTE!
You are the one who still believes in electoralism after what we witnessed. Who is the one coping and in denial again?
That's easy; it's you