Hey everyone, I've removed bans for everyone that did not request one in the previous admin thread. (I think. If you got banned and I didn't restore your account yet, let me know and I'll fix it.) Don't worry! We're not gonna just ban people for no reason.
In case anyone hasn't seen it yet, Alaskaball confirmed that Sangria was their admin alt. They were messing around with their admin tools on their own account and figured it would be seen as a funny bit, but without being informed of the bit many of the mods and admins were just as shocked, confused, and appalled as you were. I've talked to the other admins and mods, and we're all gonna take it easy on bits for a bit. (Pun intended. This is the last one, I promise.)
If you're afraid that there's been an infiltration of transphobic, egomaniacal wrecker mods who hate the users, I want to assure you that's absolutely not the case. The overwhelming majority of mods and admins on this site are trans. Our admins are all trusted, long-time users in good standing. We regularly browse, comment, and post on our main accounts. You post and chat with us daily as comrades, and we value all of you. You may not recognize the usernames on our admin accounts because we regularly swap the alts used for admin privileges. This is why you'll see really old or unused alt accounts as well as really new accounts on the admin team.
I've seen a lot of speculation down below, some entertaining, some upsetting. We absolutely do not accept transphobia or any form of bigotry on this site. Some of the statements provided by mods and admins have been seen as transphobic and bioessentialist. I want to offer some transparency, but also clarify that I can't get much more specific on this for personal security reasons.
During the earlier discussions on how we felt things could be improved with these communities, multiple trans mods and admins described their reasoning in favour of the change by expressing with a variety of wording that it's the [he/him] demographic in particular that has been the source of toxic and troubling behavior in the tanks. That the he/hims haven't been beating the accusations, so to speak. With that group being largely cishet white guys on this site, these two terms were assumed to roughly correlate. We weren't making prepared statements for release, the comments that got posted here were paraphrased and combined from more casual comments made by trans people, in the mod chat to mostly other trans people about some of the chauvinistic and ironically bigoted posting habits that they saw as alienating and unhealthy for the site, and what we could do to improve the situation. We genuinely didn't foresee the potential for a miscommunication of those statements as being bioessentialist, and want to extend our sincerest apologies for the misunderstanding.
Edit: Please feel welcome to post in c/gossip as you would have posted in the_dunk_tank, and in c/counterpropaganda as you would have posted in the_dredge_tank.
What are you talking about with doxxing? Very normal response
Edit: This is how an attempted call out post ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.
LeylaLove, when you can't resist coming back to look at this argument that you started and then lost and then had to both block me and request a self-ban to get yourself out of, I just want to say
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Hi. Take it sleazy pardner
You literally doxxed a homeless person on here, fuck you with your "normal response". What, you think you are allowed to do that because you donated to them once?
If you mean that I identified a permabanned user (who had previously bragged about scamming people here and called us slurs) on her new account, then yes. That's not what I would call doxxing, that's what I would call holding people accountable for their actions and preventing harm to the community
Clearly you've been holding a grudge. Whew glad you found the appropriate occasion to get it off your chest
You literally sent people to their social media off site you disingenuous dumbass. Yeah, I do hold a grudge because you're not a safe person on here. And you clearly hold a grudge to call them out for it after having their new account for 4 fucking years, it's always projection with people like you.
I didn't send anyone to her socials. People independently confirmed her identity for me from her socials because she had incredibly bad opsec. I wasn't even the one who clocked her. Other people noticed it was the same person because she kept posting extremely identifying personal details and payment info. I just made a post calling it out.
And yeah, I do hold a grudge when someone calls me the f-slur and laughs about scamming me. You're damn right. That's a justified permaban and she shouldn't have come back
I have no interest in being "safe" for someone who does that
Hmmm why did you post get taken down for doxxing people then?
And if you can provide any sort of meaningful difference between pointing out bad opsec like that on a post and doxxing somebody, I'd love to hear it even though it doesn't fucking exist. You should have been permabanned for not taking another user's security on here seriously. I can never imagine organizing with such an unprincipled person whose fine with disrespecting the privacy of other users on here.
Also, they've been openly posting about trying to reduce the meth they use, they've taken the steps they need to make sure they don't do that again. Your post would have been fine if it wasn't for you doxxing, and you're not going to dodge accountability for that because you put their instagram handle in the fucking post. You can't reduce your meth use to stop being an asshole because you're just an asshole
It's not actually! It was locked to prevent further drama but left up so people could inform themselves about whether they wanted to give her money. I was explicitly told this by an admin. Maybe you should take it up with them
Just a straight up lie because the truth isn't damning enough. People can go see the post! It's still up!
You know what LeylaLoves, I hope every time you see me post, a little bile crawls up the back of your throat and you can taste it. The knowledge that you have silently seething over this for half a year gives me great pleasure
Ok, doxx me about it, can't even spell the username right in front of you right I'd love to see what stupid ass shit you pull up
Why would I doxx you? Are you also going to call me a slur?
Post the post, let everybody see the hate mob you cooked up for this person. Watching that post in real time was dissapointing
No, I'm not going to call you a slur, are you going to start a hate mob towards me for something I did in 4 years ago?
I don't know of anything from four years ago that you should be held accountable for. I find you entirely unmemorable, in fact, and could not name a single thing you've done on here, good or bad. But if you'd like to send me a list of your actions please do and I'll review it when I have time
You can go right ahead and post it. I can't be bothered. I doubt you've looked at it recently since you keep lying about it, so it might take you a minute, but I'm sure you'll get there.
I hope you have a wonderful day
If you're really so above it all, post the fucking post, I'm sure me and everybody else reading this shit would love to see the post and judge for themselves
I'm very sorry to hear you're unable to use the search function that is built into the site. It is extremely complicated, to be fair. As a courtesy to you, I'm putting your kind request on my to do list. It is currently No. 346 on the list, behind getting into The Fall's discography but ahead of getting out my holiday decorations. Please reply to this post with "OPT IN" if you would like to receive automated updates on processing your request
Have a blessed day
I feel like I'm missing some big lore here. What post is this about lol? (not trying to call you a liar, I'm just curious given uh, all that lol)
I'm not going to post it here because unlike my conversation partner here I'm not interested in relitigating old drama in this update thread, but I'll DM you
yeah fair enough