• drake@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    This was a trolley problem in real life, and these voters all selected the most immoral and unethical choice.

    Ah yes, the trolley problem, a philosophical thought experiment which famously has a moral and an immoral choice.

      • drake@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        The trolley problem has always been really interesting to me, not because of the problem as it is usually considered, but because of the framing of the problem.

        We could stop the trolley, derail the trolley, hop on board the trolley and take control of it. All of these, and more, are within our power.

        But those are not valid choices. The trolley must not be stopped, even if the trolley will end all human life.

        We can only choose whether the trolley goes left, or right.

        We must never ask who put the people on the track, or why we can’t protect people from the excesses of the trolley.

        • THEPH0NECOMPANY [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          Yea its so incredibly pro status quo, that's why liberals love using the trolley problem as the rules allowed within the framing only leave the lesser evil option.

          That's also why I love this picture, let's just blow the trolley up it keeps murdering people che-smile

    • anaesidemus [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Utilitarian ethics are ill suited for important things. Those people should embrace virtue ethics, except they probably think fucking Bill Clinton or Obama are paragons of virtue.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Except Biden was trying to get a ceasefire done and supported a two state solution. Harris publicly called for a ceasefire. Trump called for Netanyahu to "finish the job"

    These guys have unlimited faith in empty promises when it's coming from their guy. How many months of genocide does it take for them to realize that the Democrats are also pushing just as hard for a 1 state solution for Israel.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      Publicly calling for a ceasefire while actively sending the better armed/funded side however many billion dollars a year of weapons. Wow.

    • regul [any]
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      2 months ago

      The most credulous rubes.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      But why would you be so worried about the fox? Look at him, he’s smiling at us!

      Nice Mr Fox isn’t gonna hurt us like that mean snarling wolf

    • EllenKelly [comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Obama promised to shut down the cia blacksite at Guantanamo Bay, libs memory holed that too. Heck Raegan promised to Make america Great Again.

      Bread and circuses

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
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      2 months ago

      I will do everything to end the war! No I won't elaborate on how I'd do that or if I would do anything about the genocide occurring

      Yeah she really tried to distance herself from what's been happening yet people just want the sound bites

  • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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    2 months ago

    JOE BIDEN IS STILL THE PRESIDENT, YOU GHOULS. The PFLP said "boycott Holden Bloodfeast" and every dedicated internationalist took the word of the resistance movement over the concerns of people whose analysis of the situation amounts to "everything is permissible unless you're on the wrong team".

  • trompete [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Libs telling us how they really feel. And what they feel is morally superior and genocidal hate against the poors, Muslims, Latinos, etc. Many of the comments don't even pretend about making a distinction between Trump voters and all these groups. They all apparently deserve what's coming to them, for being part of some group that maybe voted for Trump more than previously, but less than the (white) middle class a number of these assholes admit to being part of.

  • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    The Brunch Brigade coming out in full force fantasizing about genocide as "retaliation" despite the genocide being 100% stoppable had all of them left Brunch and actually done something about it

    It really is vile. visible-disgust

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    To click or not to click

    To click or not to click

    To click or not to-

    Hmmm.....nah, I really don't need this.....ever.

  • macabrett[they/them]@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I have a brain disease where I must look at /r/politics to see how scratched the liberals have become

    the answer is very very scratched

  • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    Not surprising at all if you remember what happened when the Russia-Ukraine war started.

    They had the permission to let the mask slip for a bit then, now they are allowed to fully take off the mask.

  • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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    2 months ago

    Libs are totally incapable of reasoned thought. Like they where already materially annexing the West bank. Killing people there. Building and reinforcing settlements. You even had government officials saying as much. But what now they're saying it 10% more publicly/mainstream outlets are reporting on it... So it's more bad now. Anyway how much more harm reduction do you think Biden will send to Israel before he leaves office?

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      B-b-but Biden’s been calling for a ceasefire!

      The only bad things are what people say, not their actions. This is worse than under Biden because now it’s being reported more publicly. Trump is worse than Biden because he openly calls for the destruction of Gaza while Biden says the word ceasefire. smuglord

      Hot take: Saying good things while doing bad things is actually worse than saying bad things while doing bad things. I am more afraid of the fox than the wolf. I’d rather deal with the guy that says “shoot them all” than the guy that says “ceasefire!” but shoots them all anyway.

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Scrolling through, there's some people brave enough to be pointing out, "people who previously voted Hillary decided to stay home or vote Stein. It isn't sexism."

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 months ago

    They always were gleeful about it, they were just looking for an excuse to admit it. Now that they blame minorities for their election loss they're comfortable being much more open about how they feel about Gaza.

  • REgon [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Show

    THEY DIDN'T! THEY JUST DIDN'T VOTE! HOW IS THIS SO HARD TO GET? HARRIS LOST 11 MILLION VOTES! GET THIS THRU YOUR DENSE SKULL THEY JUST DIDN'T VOTE

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    :nerd: it would be better under Harris because even though the west bank would be de facto annexed, it would still de jure not be smuglord

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    If only Harris could have done something to win their vote. Too bad she had to campaign on doing genocide more than Joe does it.