2016, when Islamic terrorism was still the big bad and western media was praising France for their anti-terror re-education program. this shit sounds a lot creepier than vocational training, too. nothing from Adrian Zenz about France though, curious!
And again, the China worship on here is insanely transparent.
They opened one center, had 9 people in it, and the public response got it shut down.
When you see posts like this on chapo, you know it's being done in bad faith. Free the Uyghurs.
Smh China doing a genocide on NATO backed far-right violent ethnonationalist separatists by using re-education in lieu of prison within their rule of law to improve their material conditions and reduce their susceptibility to the regime change industrial complex. Free the weegees 100 billion dead communism is a fuck. please ignore the military industrial complex funding and the decades long plug and play pattern of fake atrocity porn -> media frenzy over self referential NED funded sources -> regime change -> profit and geopolitical power
Free East Turkmenistan. Long live the counterrevolution of our times
Uyghuristan.
Good point. I should word it better next time.
lol literally supporting an ethnostate movement that has already tried ethnic and religious cleansing twice
Glad you brought that up: 2.9 million trapped in modern-day slavery in China
Cool that you are simping for a movement that kidnapped Uyghur women in mixed marriages and forcefully married them to Uyghur men and deflecting when thats pointed out.
Yes, those "barbarians need to be civilized" excuses are the exact same colonial language that's enslaved mankind for generations.
I guess the difference now is just you want to hold the whip.
It's very cool how you are putting words in my mouth to deflect your support of a movement that literally wants to take away legal rights from everyone but Uyghurs, and which considers mixed relationships a tainting of Uyghur blood.
Again, you keep implying Uyghurs are uncivilized Neanderthals. You see what propaganda and dehumanization does to the human mind? We're all brothers and sisters on this planet. Love, not conquer.
Uyghur secession movements are ethnic and religious supremacist movements, both times an East Turkestan Republic has been briefly formed it immediately started to cleanse its territory of everyone not Uyghur muslim, including the Hui. And the descendants of those people are the ones leading free Uyghur movements and the like.
The ultimate deflection, and an apologist for Uyghur genocide.
This thread is too much for me.
This is literal historical fact, and Xinjiang faced more terror attacks than all of Europe since the start of the 2000s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party
Do you defend white supremacists with this same logic?
We're all brothers and sisters until it's time for you to defend kidnapping women to be enslaved into arranged marriages and the notion of superior bloodlines, right?
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$5 says this was NIMBY resistance at having anything Muslim based in the area.
Yeah this makes us look bad because they will just say this. So I would avoid it
Exactly, how do you compare 9 to 2 million? It's absurd.
Wow its wild how China has managed to cram the entire US prison population into just one area the size of Alaska without any material sign of the massive infrastructure that would demand.
That oriental sorcery sure is powerful.
Man, I didn't think people were so eager to dismiss genocide. For shame.
The good thing about basing things on evidence is that when there is none, you can dismiss things.
And no, pure anecdotes are not evidence in the absence of material evidence, especially not when no one has displayed any physical signs of the treatment/torture they claim is widespread.
Ah yes, is this where you dismiss all the field research and life's work of one of the most respected academics in his field because he's a Christian?
Bro his field is anticommunism
He's an anthropologist
Better than the apologists in this thread...
Yeah, an anthropologist who's entire career has been anti China and anti communist. From Tibetans to the Uyghers, the guys just has a boner for hating on China.
isn't zenz known to be the worst? where are the other scholars backing him up?
Everyone should be open to new information regarding Xinjiang, it doesn't make sense for any of us to feel like we know everything unless we live there. But Zenz isn't just an ordinary Christian, he has very radical religious beliefs that absolutely call his credibility into question. I would want someone more trustworthy to be researching an actual genocide. So from your position it doesn't make sense to leap to his defense, because he could end up hurting the cause of the Uyghurs.
Mask off. I think that China is likely doing pretty bad things to the Uygurs, but I do not trust Adrian Zenz for a second.