Please stop listening to rich kids.

Especially ones using fascist hashtags. https://t.co/mL53popBr4?amp=1

https://medium.com/@TalibKweli/why-ados-is-trash-receipts-attached-5a337f46f10

And working with Trump staffers.

https://imgur.com/a/lVxZ3ye

Who are also connected to said fascist hashtags.

These people are not leftists. They arent your friends.

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Here is a contra mod calling BJG and her podcast rich kid fascism. Which is hilariously ironic.. considering contra is that.

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    Platformed Truscum buck angel and refused to apologize for it. Truscum writer theyrn Meyer wrote her scripts

    • Corbyn [none/use name]
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      Platformed Truscum buck angel and refused to apologize for it.

      Made an 1 1/2h video explaning what she disagrees with and why she thinks that working with that person is still beneficial for the cause as a whole.

      Truscum writer theyrn Meyer wrote her scripts

      No idea who that is, but apparently they have been friends for a long time. What is your source on her writing her scripts? Based on my 2 minutes of research, it is not clear how much they have worked together beyond giving advice. And even if they did, why not? If you are friends with someone who has some stupid views, why would you not take advice that can be useful to you and your cause, and also help changing your friend's views?

      You have some strange definitions of fascism. People you disagree with, especially when the points you disagree on are hardly left causes (like transgender issues), aren't all fascists.

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        the points you disagree on are hardly left causes (like transgender issues)

        but have you considered: fuck you

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        Haven’t seen this latest video, but I still like contra despite some flaws/mistakes. That’s human. But her fan base is beyond awful, the sub is easily one of the worst places on left reddit.

        Honestly never thought I would see someone say ADOS was a fascist term.

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        She made a 1 1/2 hour video where she strawmans her critics as anime nazis and that the only thing wrong with Buck Angel was a personal conflict 10+ years ago instead of actively supporting transphobia and fascism on Twitter, which she claims that she literally didn't even visit his twitter even though she was fully aware of his reputation among Nonbinary people. That video also caused people to get harrassed by her supporters in identical ways to Contra herself, which she implied caused her to feel suicidal and then brings onto others.

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        Theyrn Meyer has made collab videos with milo yianopolous Steven crowder Gavin the guy who founded proud boys Sargon of Akkad tim pool Richard spencer.All fascists. She’s a fascist.

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            Richard Spencer led the charolettesville neo nazis. Is also a white nationalist and believes black people and minorities should be expelled or executed tom the state. Stefan molyneux is a proponent of race realism. Was banned from multiple platforms for saying that minorities should be expelled and executed from America. Gavin started a neo nazi cult. Millenial woes is another white nationalist theyrn had on her channel. You don’t know what you are talking about. Any self identifying white nationalist is a fascist. All of these fucking people have been on her channel. Where she promotes them. And to say Steven crowder Sargon Lauren southern tim pool and more aren’t reactionary fascists is also ridiculous. You can downvote facts all you want. It’s not my problem. Candace Owens was also on her channel. She caused a mass shooting by a white supremacist last year. You guys are idiots to think theyrn Isint a piece of shit for agreeing with and platforming neo nazis

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                modern white nationalists absolutely do take advantage of the fact that capitalism is in decay. Spencer's whole shtick is that he was trying to get bourgeois funding for his white nationalist project. he failed at that project because he was aggressively deplatformed but I don't think failure disqualifies him as a fascist.

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                All western countries are still white supremacist. Richard spencer is a fascist. Gavin is a fascist. Stefan is a fascist. They are all right wing Faux populists who espouse a white ethnostate to fix societal decay. That is the definition of fascism. They all meet it. So uh can u stop.

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                set of circumstances that intentionally takes advantage of the fact that capitalism is in decay.

                milo yianopolous Steven crowder Gavin the guy who founded proud boys Sargon of Akkad tim pool Richard spencer.All fascists. She’s a fascist.

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            To be fair, fascist doesn't really have a clear definition, as fascism doesn't really have a clear definition.

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            Fascist is a word with an actual definition that isn’t just “thing I don’t like.”.

            Found the redditor

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          And ContraPoints has created content opposing those people. Do you see any fascist influences in her videos? Being friends with someone who has problematic views does not make you a fascist.

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            This was an employee of hers writing the scripts of her videos who has made collab videos with actual nazis such as Richard spencer and Stefan molyneux

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              This was an employee of hers writing the scripts of her videos

              As I said, my research resulted in them being friends. Apparently she also does some editing and probably gives some advice here and there (https://web.archive.org/web/20190708020125if_/https://www.twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1148028660491923458). If she does a good job at this, and helps spreading a more left message, isn't that good?

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                She has made videos with Literal neo nazis no she should not be an employee of any self respecting person. The fact that she made videos with white nationalists automatically should make her unemployable by contra. Also a white south african

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                  I would hire my friends who have problematic views if they can do the job I need them for well. Gets them out of their bubble, helps my message, and makes them actively work on spreading a left message. Everyone wins in this case.

                  ¯\(ツ)

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                    There’s a difference between being problematic and supporting a white ethnostate and being White from South Africa.

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                      I know someone who used to believe that the Middle East should get nuked, except for Israel. He grew up in Israel. Does that count as bad enough?

                      He has since then improved and given up on most of his Islamophobia. There is still some damage caused by growing up surrounded by so much propaganda, but overall he has moved far to the left. Your approach would have been to call him names and isolate him, helping exactly 0 people.

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                        Yes. It’s not any self respecting persons job to rehabilitate fascists. And openly employing people with fascistic views makes you suspect as well.

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                          I guess I am basically a fascist because I have spent many days of my life arguing with them. I need to be more lazy and isolate people, then cry about them radicalising themselves.

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                            I just don’t waste my valuable limited time on people who have reactionary world views. It’s not my problem

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                              True, you are lazily living in your bubble and attack those reaching outside of it.

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                                It’s not my obligation to rehabilitate fascists. Nor do I want too. It’s not my obligation to Rehabilitate abusers. It’s fucked up that u say it’s lazy to not want to interact with fascists. No. It’s for my own sanity

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            No. Grammar is performative and arbitrary. Also I’d like to point out I just showed you an employee of contra is a literal nazi and you just ignore it. Contra is a fascist by her actions and not her words. Also liberalism is thinly veiled fascism. She identifies as a liberal. It’s cringe that I have to tell people this.

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              Grammar is performative and arbitrary

              Grammar has some simple rules that make reading and understanding much easier. Your fight against grammar is not helping you if you intent to communicate something.

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              Grammar is performative and arbitrary

              No, if grammar was arbitrary it wouldn't exist. It exists to help break up sentences to help us comprehend them better. Humans find it difficult to read lots of information all at once without pauses.

              Also how is 'performative' a criticism?

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              I’m not a contra stan so I’m not really concerned, liked some of her old videos. This Theryn person seems pretty bad though, I see people claiming she’s changed but seems like she’s got a lot to make up for.

              She does seem like further evidence that the song ‘I’ve never met a nice [white] South African’ is pretty true.

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                Has videos supporting neo nazis that she deleted. I don’t think she deserves a second chance and esp not employment from a so called leftist

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              okay, but she's not getting anyone killed, so let's focus on the people actively doing fascism.

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        I'm not sure if Meyer works on all of her scripts but some of the drama posted in r/contrapoints had Contra mentioning that in the process of making the video, Meyer mentioned Buck Angel as somebody who was an old fogey trans activist and could be included in the video doing a like, 10 second voice clip.