Dude is making the libs looks calm and rational

  • Mallow [any,comrade/them]
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    I disagree with him but I read most of the article and his rationale seems to be that Trump will kill more people than Hitler, possibly everyone, by intentionally taking actions that accelerate global warming. I think it's shaky reasoning because then each of the people in the capitalist class that are doing the same thing would also be the worst in history, it's not a problem unique to Trump. He extends this to how he inspires more reactionaries globally but I also think that if it wasn't him they would find some other fascist to rally behind. lol

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      yeah, i dont think the rise in reactionaries globaly its a trump problem, its mostly due to the falling of neoliberalism to enrich its host country

      • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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        If you're looking for a single person to blame, Trump is probably the guy. I still think it's kind of a dumb and meaningless statement but it's not like he's talking about Russiagate or something

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      Or we could listen to him critically, like we should be doing with everyone always.

      Maybe I'd be a little more sympathetic to the people who think Chomsky is some sort of evil neolib plant if I knew there were a bunch of ardent Chomskyists out there, hanging on his every word, whose entire ideology is just to believe everything he says.

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      No you don't understand, his entire body of work is meaningless because sometimes when he's interviewed he says things that are wrong or poorly thought out

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    saying that trump is worse than hitler is just, wow, do people really believe this

  • StalinistApologist [he/him]
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    • Trump is a bad person and lies a lot
    • Trump continued our wars and immigration/deportation policies
    • Trump is nowhere near the worst criminal in human history
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    we are pretty much all in agreement that he is doing bad takes

  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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    he is clearly in the early stage of dementia, making fun of him now is kinda bad

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    I love Chomsky and think people have been extremely ungenerous to him but I mainly focus on his work in linguistics rather than regard him as our "greatest public intellectual" or whatever

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      The show Rake has a character in I think season 1 or 2 that reminds me of Chomsky. He's a crazy linguistics professor who's mad about how the government and corporations keept twising language to remove all meaning.

      He decides to infiltrate all these high level government meetings and corporate meetings just so he can take notes on the shitty phrases they use. Then gets put in jail for 10 years even though he didn't publish any secrets, just rambled on about how they don't use language right.

      Chomsky is kinda like that. He reached a sort of consciousness through his study of linguistics that led him to form some proper conclusions, but because he doesn't approach those discoveries with class in mind, he ends up falling short.

      The episode. It's on Netflix if you want to watch the whole episode, it's pretty good

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    expressed serious concerns about the future of American democracy (although he conceded that it “was never much to write home about”). :thinkin-lenin: :thinky-felix: :bean-think:


    Chomsters, no!

    he also railed against “cancel culture”

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    Chomsky is basically the 'baby's first' leftist....

    He's a good introduction to leftism, but he's not worth putting on a pedestal and hanging onto his every word. After a while, you start to see contradictions within his rhetoric based on his own liberalism. He's really not as left as he is marketed.

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      Anybody who tries to argue that American democracy is some sort of magical, divine instutiton that needs to be defended under all circumstances is a fucking lib. The choice between Biden and Trump is almost entirely aesthetic, as you would expect from a liberal, bourgeoisie democracy. Neither candidate is campaigning on anything even close to a substantial material program for poor and wokring class people. Biden is frequently hostile to the suggestion, in fact. It's completley logical for people to vote based on which team's memes are spicier because aesthetics are all you're gonna get from either candidate.

      The hysteria around REPUBLICANS STEALING THE ELECTION is just the Democrats and liberal media institutions realizing how profitable the grift the Republicans set up with the Tea Party and Fox News is. All of these insane ramblings you hear coming from CNN, MSNBC, liberal celebrities, etc. is the equivalent of people like Glenn Beck in 2010 claiming that Obama is going to institute Sharia law tomorrow. It's insanely powerful because you can create a quasi-army of people who are ride-or-die for your team, willing to pony up tons of cash, and ask for nothing because they live in a fantasy simulation where the other side is always days or weeks away from some sort of movie-esque seizure of power or coup.

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    It's pure, uncut Liberalism for sure. Let the old man huff away before he dies.