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SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk reportedly caused a geopolitical crisis last year, when Ukrainian forces—which have relied heavily on the company’s Starlink satellite communications—were on the verge of striking Russian naval vessels off the coast of Crimea with submersible drones. Concerned that the attack would provoke Russia into using nuclear weapons, Musk unilaterally opted to sever the submarines’ satellite connection, throwing a wrench in the entire assault.
The incident—shared by CNN based on an adapted excerpt from an upcoming book by Walter Isaacson—demonstrates Musk’s increasing unwillingness to lend his satellite network to offensive maneuvers waged by Ukraine. “How am I in this war?” “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”
After foiling the attack, Musk reportedly received a desperate text from a Ukrainian deputy prime minister, Mykhailo Fedorov, who asked that Musk reinstate the Starlink connection to the drones. “I just want you—the person who is changing the world through technology—to know this,” Fedorov wrote. But Musk refused to reverse course, telling Fedorov that Ukraine “is now going too far and inviting strategic defeat.”
Apparently he was worried that the assault would provoke nuclear war. Musk showing actual thought for the first time in ever.
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Apparently he was worried that the assault would provoke nuclear war. Musk showing actual thought for the first time in ever.
When an actual fascist in Musk doesn't want nuclear war but your average wine cave warrior liberal does.
ive been seeing the term "wine cave" a lot recently, can you tell me what it means?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/20/pete-buttigiegs-wine-cave-what-to-know-about-the-napa-fundraiser.html
It's used to mock rich out of touch bourgeois neoliberals like him.
Aaah ok I thought there mightve been something deeper about it. Thanks 👍
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Always remember who these people are. They hide it, but they don't live like us. Keep it in mind especially when they're hand-wringing about better rights for marginalised people or demanding that feeding or housing the homeless be means tested behind 50 different indecipherable rules to make it harder.
It’s a rich person thing. Rich libs build a wine cave kind of like how rich Chuds build bunkers
Somewhere out there is a chud that stocked their apocalypse bunker with 20 years worth of bud light
Musk isn't a fascist he's a racist idiot so I understand the confusion but there's more to fascism than just that
I mean, I imagine he was wrong about that particular encounter provoking nuclear war, seems like a post-hoc justification from a dipshit that can't make up his mind on how/if to support ukraine's war effort, but god is this being at the whims of a baby-brained billionaire funny
It's at least the most plausible justification that musk has made for any of his decisions, in decades..
I'm as far from a Musk fan as you can get, but this whole narrative of him causing serious damage to the Ukrainian effort because of Starlink smells like western media establishing a fall guy to point to for when the effort ultimately fails. The US gov has subsidized ALL of his businesses so heavily, if Starlink were really that valuable to the operation, they would have forced his hand one way or the other. I was equally as skeptical when they touted Starlinks value in the very beginning of the dispute.
Holy fuck I’d love it if they blamed it all on musk that’d be so funny
If Biden had Musk strung up for treason or whatever, I'd think about voting for him for a half second
I'll get all communists I know to vote for Biden if he promises to execute Elon Musk.
I'm not trusting any Biden promises. He needs to actually execute Elon before I consider voting for him.
Yeah, weren't they hailing it as the saving grace for the efforts at the beginning? Imo they are about to start backtracking hard and admitting defeat and are getting all the scapegoats lines up.
Very cool that this satellite communications network that can make the difference between life and death of hundreds of people is owned and controlled by a man with the intellectual capabilities of an actual hamster
Musk is a very obvious US government asset. So what's his endgame here, Is it all just a distraction?
Also, “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”
Then why did he create contracts with the pentagon and the department of defense??
he gets a lot of subsidies from the government, yes. I don't know if he's a government asset so much as the american government is an asset of the bourgeoisie as a class. It's sort of a chicken and egg problem at this point, but I'm inclined to believe the latter rather than the former.
There are some bourg which hold the leash and some that are on the leash. Musk on the leash but thinks he holds it. His shit wagons and wunder rockets would not exist without government subsidies.
I think the bourgeoisie collectively, as a class, holds the leash of government, and the government, like a good dog, fetches subsidies for them. The state is an instrument for the suppression of one class by another, which is why we should seize the state from the bourgeoisie
Oh absolutely, but there are definite distinctions between the bourgeoisie. Generally speaking, the financial capitalists have more control than the industrial capitalists. They always have class solidarity when it comes to suppressing the proletariat, but have different views on the economy at large.
I think chicken and egg is apt. Rather than one controlling the other, it's a feedback loop, and ultimately no one is in charge of it. it's just a stable self-sustaining dynamic process
it's a feedback loop, and ultimately no one is in charge of it. it's just a stable self-sustaining dynamic process
Great way of putting it
Even if he's a government asset he can still be an impressionable dumbass.
Yeah, "asset" in a case like this is usually aligned interests + some overt direction, with occasional disagreement and pushback.
Elon is a deep state failson who pretends he’s fighting against it and is part of the counter culture. It’s just all a circus for him
So what's his endgame here, Is it all just a distraction
he is comically stupid and bad at everything he does. His endgame as far as I can tell is for everyone to say "wow Elon you're so great your dad was wrong you are a genius good boy"
I’m just a simple communist, but maybe if you don’t want critical infrastructure during wartime to go away on the whims of a billionaire, maybe you shouldn’t entrust said infrastructure to free market capitalism?
thats why you need PATRIOTIC billionairesTbf I'm pretty sure that Musks actions are spurring the Pentagon to look into developing their own.
It is deeply unsettling that a random doofus oligarch can just hugely impact a war like that, someone needs to fix this (change the news so I don't have to hear about it)
Critical support to the worst person in the world
A book written by the fucking ex-CEO of CNN states that a drone went offline last year and it's Elon's fault. There's no evidence, no names, no story, just waffle and assertions. This is just distracting noise based on nothing.
Oh good, if they're running pieces like this with evidence as flimsy as that, then he's definitely being viewed as a liability and is likely to have something funny happen to him.
So first it was the tricksy russkies using secret technologies such as "minefields", and that was why the offensive was failing. Now it's Musk shutting off his ego project. What's next? Indian curse? Anything to deflect the blame from the filth in Pentagon and white house
So can we convince libs that elon is a traitor and should be executed
No whatever he did is because he’s smart and rich and you’re just hating because you’re poor and stupid.
Don’t waste your time trying to lead the horse to water; it’s happy to drink the sand.
