why does every remotely left leaning subreddit somehow fill up with anti communist "socialists"? its wildly frustrating. to clarify, i'm an anarchist and i'm just waiting for someone to call me red fash/tankie at this point
I'm not an American """"""socialist"""""" as you can see from my reply to OP, but criticizing Bernie is dumb. Socdems in Europe were criticized because they were opportunists who diverted people from actual existing and viable communist parties, as well as diverting people from radical union action.
In the US, there are no viable communist parties, and no large-scale radical unions, so criticizing Bernie from that angle is meaningless. We can't criticize Bernie for stealing voters from non-existent third parties.
that feels like a chicken and the egg problem. There are no viable leftist parties because the Democratic party has shepherd dogs leading us back to centrist candidates. Two elections in a row, we had Bernie, 2024 we’ll have AOC. If we worked our ass off starting now, we could have a viable party by 2024.
The definition of left is very fucking eroded in our current culture. If you stick to making solid arguments you will sway them eventually. Prolly how a lot of us got here.
Counterpoint: you won't necessarily be able to change their views with arguments because they might be people in comfortable positions who don't have any problem with the status quo, and only like the aesthetic of being a rebel.
Its the same good negro/bad negro propaganda used by slavers. Good leftists are those who criticize AES societies and who dont do "authoritarian" things like organizing radical unions or forming militias. Bad leftists are those who point out the massive successes of AES societies, point out the useful lessons learned from their experience and who are "authoritarian" (read : willing to actually do useful stuff other than voting or charity)
So be a good little leftist, don't get out of line, and you're rewarded with patting on your head, like a master would to his cur. But be a bad leftist, acquire actual material economic and political power, you face ostracism, arrest or worst-case execution like Fred Hampton.
why does every remotely left leaning subreddit somehow fill up with anti communist "socialists"? its wildly frustrating. to clarify, i'm an anarchist and i'm just waiting for someone to call me red fash/tankie at this point
because bernie rebranded socialism as the mildest form of social democracy.
I'm not an American """"""socialist"""""" as you can see from my reply to OP, but criticizing Bernie is dumb. Socdems in Europe were criticized because they were opportunists who diverted people from actual existing and viable communist parties, as well as diverting people from radical union action.
In the US, there are no viable communist parties, and no large-scale radical unions, so criticizing Bernie from that angle is meaningless. We can't criticize Bernie for stealing voters from non-existent third parties.
that feels like a chicken and the egg problem. There are no viable leftist parties because the Democratic party has shepherd dogs leading us back to centrist candidates. Two elections in a row, we had Bernie, 2024 we’ll have AOC. If we worked our ass off starting now, we could have a viable party by 2024.
That’s the spirit!
The definition of left is very fucking eroded in our current culture. If you stick to making solid arguments you will sway them eventually. Prolly how a lot of us got here.
Counterpoint: you won't necessarily be able to change their views with arguments because they might be people in comfortable positions who don't have any problem with the status quo, and only like the aesthetic of being a rebel.
Its the same good negro/bad negro propaganda used by slavers. Good leftists are those who criticize AES societies and who dont do "authoritarian" things like organizing radical unions or forming militias. Bad leftists are those who point out the massive successes of AES societies, point out the useful lessons learned from their experience and who are "authoritarian" (read : willing to actually do useful stuff other than voting or charity)
So be a good little leftist, don't get out of line, and you're rewarded with patting on your head, like a master would to his cur. But be a bad leftist, acquire actual material economic and political power, you face ostracism, arrest or worst-case execution like Fred Hampton.
"critical support"
You literally just defined criticism as reactionary, cognitive dissonance is off the charts!
dumb
dialectics go brrrrrr
American propaganda
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