They 100%, passionately believe that this election is being stolen in front of their eyes. Trump, eh, maybe he actually believes it or maybe he's just posturing because he doesn't want to look like America's biggest loser, but he's doing everything he can to stoke the fire.

Are they going to turn out to be paper tigers and just whine to each other on td dot win? Or do you think that America is going to see some violence come from this? If so, will it be at all organised or will it be a random series of "lone wolf" attacks?

Is Donnie going to declare a "shadow government" because he "truly won the fraudulent election"?

  • T_Doug [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Despite their rhetoric, most Boomer groypers are too invested into the existing system and have too much of a subconscious fear of death to mount any sort of organized rebellion.

    We may see a wave of violence from a Biden inauguration, but it'll be done overwhelmingly by young people ~18-30 (think Kyle Rittenhouse, Timothy McVeigh, or Jared Lee Loughner types) for the same reasons that most political violence is committed by young people. I think a lot of people are underestimating the power of the self preservation instincts, and aversion to sacrifice, which people get in their 30s.

    No way any sort of organized rebellion will be launched. I'm guessing most Trump people will move on to their own form of Russiagate after a few weeks, where some Conservative hero (Q/JFK JR) will be the Mueller stand in, who is always mere moments away from sending Biden to prison. They'll faithfully tune in to Fox News and get their political satisfaction from obsessively following the story.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I doubt Biden will be impeached only because that would make Harris the incumbent in 2024. She'll run anyway (I'm assuming Biden won't stand for re-election), but it'd work better for Republicans if she wasn't running as a sitting president.

        I guess if Republicans have the Senate and House in 2022 they might impeach both so we'll get a Republican in the White House, but that would be a(nother) unprecedented step away from the veneer of democracy, and their appetite for that depends on where the party goes in the wake of Trump.

        • Zerotrap [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Biden not running again scares the piss out of me. 2020 pretty much proved that the sheer misogyny in America was kept Hillary out of the white house. Kamala would be an even sadder loss. I see her losing badly against Cruz or Rubio, and a much closer loss against a neoconfederate like Tom Cotton. She was in the low single digits in the primary before she dropped out.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            2020 pretty much proved that the sheer misogyny in America was kept Hillary out of the white house.

            I'm not sure that's the right takeaway. There's a ton of misogyny in the U.S. for sure, but I think the openly-misogynistic Republicans were going to vote against her anyway and the less-openly-misogynistic Democrats were more repulsed by Trump than by the idea of a woman in the Oval Office. I see them as having run essentially the same campaign for the same constituents, and getting largely similar results -- a popular vote win, but a margin narrow enough in the right places that Trump still had a good chance. If both went into election night with a ~70% chance at winning, it'd make sense that they'd win at least one of those elections.

            • Zerotrap [she/her]
              1·
              4 years ago

              I'm not saying Hillary is a great politician, I'm saying her and Biden are equally mediocre, and him being a man was decisive.

              You don't think misogyny factored into the Comey thing being as damaging as it was? Basically the same thing happened with Hunter's laptop, and yet Biden kept on chugging along. If Hunter was Hillary's son the "terrible mother" narrative wouldve been all over fox and she would've lost ten points with pearl clutching white suburban moms.

          • Grace [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            i dunno, i think that a neo-confederate like Cotton would crush a milquetoast liberal like Harris.

      • T_Doug [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Could happen, but if after the inauguration Republicans promise to impeach Biden upon winning the midterms, it'd only make political violence less likely.

    • NationalizeMSM [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Yea, and one positive aspect of Trump being gone is there will be no obvious leadership anymore for the right wing. Some will still read his tweets. Some will still be on fox news. Surely there will be some rising star Republicans as well trying to get a foothold for 2024.

      Its going to be a confusing time to be a republican.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Some will still read his tweets. Some will still be on fox news. Surely there will be some rising star Republicans as well trying to get a foothold for 2024.

        Really looking forward to the growing Fox/loonier than Fox schism

    • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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      4 years ago

      I think a lot of people are underestimating the power of the self preservation instincts, and aversion to sacrifice, which people get in their 30s.

      Modern people have been trained to not rock the boat even when they're teenagers/20 somethings. Rittenhouse is an interesting case because he was literally just looking to cause trouble as opposed to having a psychotic meltdown or masterminding some scheme like the other two. If he's truly the equivalent, then we've been more or less neutered as a society and anyone posting about "violence" just needs to take a Xanax and cool off.