Stupidpol is far beyond class reductionist. It's almost Strasserite at this point. It used to be a little better, but got exponentially worse once r/cth was banned.
the recognition of oppression is in the ways that extant regimes of power divide the workers along those lines of identity in order to mask material exploitation within the workplace...
being oppressed is tantamount to one's placement within the power hierarchy. Miles Davis got pulled over in his Ferrari and roughed up by police, but still was let go. Poor non-famous Black people get killed in the same circumstances. There is still a class element here, even if it's used as a shield within racist societies
this works in the imperial core to a greater extent than in peripheral countries, because of the history of different groups & identities being pitted against one another in industrial societies in order to drive down wages
"class reductionism" is a canard... it's like Stokely Carmichael says:
“If a white man wants to lynch me, that's his problem. If he's got the power to lynch me, that's my problem. Racism is not a question of attitude; it's a question of power. Racism gets its power from capitalism. Thus, if you're anti-racist, whether you know it or not, you must be anti-capitalist. The power for racism, the power for sexism, comes from capitalism, not an attitude.”
we have to find the intersubjective commonality & stop eating our own fingers. class is the prism that different forms of racial & gender & cishet comformist oppression are reified into a material & sociological antagonism over time. and it's reproduced from generation to generation
we are talking about power after all. Even Sankara lived in a society that had ethnic & religious strains, and his death was ultimately to be blamed on tribalistic "IDpol" because he was directly treating & ending feudalistic class iniquities like mutilating young girls & keeping of harems etc. Culture is not necessarily our friend
Yes well said friend. Culture is not our friend and class reductionism is a canard. Class analysis is key to understanding the power that defines our identities.
In stupidpol's case it is a mask for actual bigots and reactionaries. And really, the real crime is the stupidpol mods that tolerate full-blown transphobes and racist. Most of the posts aren't bad criticism but the comments are disgusting and discussion is impossible
Huh who would have guessed. :thinkin-lenin: As much as they suck, stupidpol was my introduction to :fred-hampton:, so there was some decency on the sub at some point. Wonder what they would think of him now?
Stupidpol is far beyond class reductionist. It's almost Strasserite at this point. It used to be a little better, but got exponentially worse once r/cth was banned.
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it's almost like it's the natural conclusion of a class reductionist ideology...
the recognition of oppression is in the ways that extant regimes of power divide the workers along those lines of identity in order to mask material exploitation within the workplace...
being oppressed is tantamount to one's placement within the power hierarchy. Miles Davis got pulled over in his Ferrari and roughed up by police, but still was let go. Poor non-famous Black people get killed in the same circumstances. There is still a class element here, even if it's used as a shield within racist societies
this works in the imperial core to a greater extent than in peripheral countries, because of the history of different groups & identities being pitted against one another in industrial societies in order to drive down wages
"class reductionism" is a canard... it's like Stokely Carmichael says:
“If a white man wants to lynch me, that's his problem. If he's got the power to lynch me, that's my problem. Racism is not a question of attitude; it's a question of power. Racism gets its power from capitalism. Thus, if you're anti-racist, whether you know it or not, you must be anti-capitalist. The power for racism, the power for sexism, comes from capitalism, not an attitude.”
we have to find the intersubjective commonality & stop eating our own fingers. class is the prism that different forms of racial & gender & cishet comformist oppression are reified into a material & sociological antagonism over time. and it's reproduced from generation to generation
we are talking about power after all. Even Sankara lived in a society that had ethnic & religious strains, and his death was ultimately to be blamed on tribalistic "IDpol" because he was directly treating & ending feudalistic class iniquities like mutilating young girls & keeping of harems etc. Culture is not necessarily our friend
Yes well said friend. Culture is not our friend and class reductionism is a canard. Class analysis is key to understanding the power that defines our identities.
In stupidpol's case it is a mask for actual bigots and reactionaries. And really, the real crime is the stupidpol mods that tolerate full-blown transphobes and racist. Most of the posts aren't bad criticism but the comments are disgusting and discussion is impossible
this is well said. I fully agree.
Huh who would have guessed. :thinkin-lenin: As much as they suck, stupidpol was my introduction to :fred-hampton:, so there was some decency on the sub at some point. Wonder what they would think of him now?
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