Fucking bizarre
Still going with "first Qanon/anti-5G bombing". With a cover bet on "former employee".
Sound very plausible to me. The thing just seems a bit "polished" or high-production value. The bomb definitely worked very well, and there was the whole computerized voice countdown over loudspeakers. Someone really thought this through and was likely planning it for a long time.
The bomb definitely worked very well
Tim McVeigh did it. Anders Breivik did it. Every two-bit group in Iraq and Syria can do it. It's frankly a surprise how rarely it happens in most places.
huh? car bombs have been going off without killing the bomber for a long time, no robot driver needed
yeah the proliferation of street-facing cameras in the anglosphere has thrown a wrench for sure
the other two clearly mitigate risks but idk that the mitigation will provide the breaking point that leads to a ton of self-driving car bombings
think of them as “ground drones” and suddenly it makes a lot of sense
does it? aerial drones are proliferate and the only folks using them for bombs are doing so in war torn areas (and the vast majority of those aren't exactly available to consumers)
I mean I'm just nitpicking 'a lot more often'.
Car bombs were the assassination tool of choice for a long time (still are, maybe?), and aerial drones are now the
carpet-bombingassassination tool of choice for the empire, but much less so for non-state actors since it's not exactly easy to get your hands on a raytheon/boeing/whoever drone no matter how long an individual spends planning. Just like it won't be easy to get your hands on a northrop ground drone.
There will be decades of conspiracy theories on this one. I'm working on multiple just sitting here with my SO lol
5G conspiracies are being pumped in because China is building the towers
Conspiracy theories are a conspiracy theory
Its not the first anti-5g bombing fyi, but its definitely this. It has to be.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9090067/PICTURED-Mother-29-given-TWO-free-homes-worth-409K-Nashville-bomber.html
we were right SON
If we're playing the "conspiracy card"...
One hell of a way to get rid of a body you don't need alive any more.
Having the PA set up makes this so hard to try to figure out. If they just wanted to blow themselves/a big vehicle up they would choose a different location. Clearly, they intended to convey some sort of message by doing this, why would you not use the PA to this end.
If it is just an elaborate suicide, they wanted people to take notice, why would you not identify/explain yourself.
Or if it's political/ideological explain what you intend to cause to happen.
Or if it's a false flag add something to point at a likely target you would like discredited/attacked.
Or if they are trying to cause terror for terror's sake, it's a total failure. People will be confident that they could just leave the area if it were to happen again. Suggest that this is a warning but the next one will be sudden or something.
So the only thing I can come up with is that they thought their motivations would be so obvious that no explanation would be needed. If so, this is a very strange mix of delusion, motivation, and capability.
Or straight up nihilist "the universe is a scary and random place and jokes on you for trying to make sense of it"
The PA really is the sticking point. Almost every theory makes more sense without it. Just a thought though...
If you've been following the far-right online, they have been talking about invoking Martial Law since the election: using a state of emergency and military force to keep the WH. The Q faction in particular talks about "10 Days of Darkness", a planned(?) media/communications blackout to keep Trump's enemies and the public at large in the dark while Trump consolidates power (this is a good thing to them, of course). While this is almost certainly not Trump's actual plan, maybe a Q follower really wants it to be. Blowing up a bomb downtown then serves two purposes: general terror and a stab at comms infrastructure.
But then there's the PA. Just seems too courteous and high-quality, like an unrealistic movie. Can only think of a three-letter answer for that part.
But then there’s the PA. Just seems too courteous and high-quality, like an unrealistic movie. Can only think of a three-letter answer for that part.
I think a nerd/technician could do that easily. Justify it that way to themselves and look more noble - "I'm not a murderer, I'm a terrorist", just sending a message.
If it turns out to be someone connected to AT&T - an unhappy former worker, say, then the location makes sense, too.
Not that the military-security apparatus element are above this sort of thing. But I think someone who's had it all with this shitty system - perhaps without any political explanations, even, may still have done this. Just a Fuck You to the world on the way out - but not a murder, which leaves you hated by everyone.
I see what you're saying. A layman with some technical knowledge could rig up a PA like that, it's just unusual. Someone without political convictions who wanted a spectacle would go with the weirdness of it.
Haha I know people with technical knowledge and strong, but very bland political convictions. You can be angry, but still only want to say, "Oh, if only we had a Canadian system of government...!" You're right that it's weird - but it also takes someone weird to do a terrorism in the first place.
The PA makes a lot of sense if you consider someone who wants to only hurt the bad guys, whoever the bad guys are. It also makes a lot of sense if the person doing this has watched a lot of movies or genuinely didn't want to hurt civilians. This to me makes perfect sense with the idea that this is a q person or some conspiracy theory rando. Wasn't there some rumour that that AT&T station held some voting machines data? If I remember this correctly it could then be a stop the steal person.
Yeah or a 5G nut. But usually those types can't shut the fuck up about their theories, so it's odd there wasn't a brainwormed manifesto or something that turned up. Unless maybe the cops found one and decided to keep it under wraps to avoid copycat attacks. Not enough puzzle pieces rn to get any satisfying conclusions.
"PA system", a loudspeaker system for addressing the public. Sorry if that's not a common term.
Gab has a group for Q posts, and a segment of thedonald.lose's userbase posts Q stuff (less so now than previously). I'm sure there's some on Parler, but I haven't made an account.
Caring about civilian casualties seems uncharacteristic of any three-letter clandestine operations. I don't think the PA makes that possibility more or less likely.
Eerie is the word I've been using. It feels like a portent of things to come.
It's fucking confusing and scary in a strange way. So eerie.
That's definitely why I've been obsessing over this. It feels like something from a movie that marks that start of the really bad shit happening
Or I'm just being anxious again
I think it’s probably a false flag attack like the planned operation Northwood in the 60s or a Qanon 5G nut because it was near one of the main AT&T data centers for the country. The only other piece that makes it odd is the suicide bombing aspect. That seems almost too polished as if the intelligence services (CIA, FBI, NSA, etc) were trying to get rid of a human asset.
But a false flag attack for what? Usually the purpose of a false flag is "look, x did y, be afraid!" but now everyone is confused and doesn't understand what the point of this was supposed to be.
I’m going to start by saying I know nothing. If it was a false flag attack it doesn’t need a purpose it can be just to increase fear and confusion. It could just be to make people scared generally and create a sense of fear and chaos. Sort of like a small scale sense of the dislocation described in the book shock doctrine.
No one does a false flag attack just so people go "eh?". "Eh?" is not a reaction significant enough. It's not worth it. It has to be situated within a certain context to become meaningful. This is way too stupid to be a false flag. I think it probably is what people are saying, some weird qanon crank that killed himself for 5g.
Fun fact, my father used to work with some "anarchist" who was eventually proven to be an intelligence asset doing bloodless false flag attacks in Greece due to our institutions being very incompetent which resulted in him getting arrested by counter terrorist orgs that just didn't know he was an asset until the intelligence agency (which BTW was first founded and entirely controlled by the CIA) intervened to get him out of legal trouble. Don't let anyone tell you false flags are not a thing that happens because it does and it's very easy to do too. But usually there is a reason, they don't just randomly happen.
You’re right it is weird and I know that false flag attacks definitely happen. It was suspected that the Nova Scotia shooter a few years back was an intelligence asset. I didn’t say the Nashville definitely a false flag but the idea that someone wouldn’t do a false flag with no obvious target is not true. They haven’t come out with a motive or blamed anyone yet. We don’t know anything yet. When they blame someone and show a motive and start showing evidence is the time to pick it apart. My original comment said it could be a false flag attack, a 5G crank, or just getting rid of a used up asset. Any of those are plausible at this point. They disrupted AT&T service which seems like a 5G crank, it was a suicide bombing which could be getting rid of an asset, it was also very strange which could give some credence to a false flag attack. Those are all possibilities, we know nothing at this point it’s all speculation. For all we know it could’ve been a diversion and the fact that it disrupted air traffic control and 911 calls allowed for something else to be carried out without an easy ability for it to be reported on. Literally no one knows anything. Anything is possible.
My first thought was "domestic gladio" when I got a 5 minute rundown on this yesterday, and I'm not changing my mind yet.
Like this but domestic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
pigs speculating that pigs were the target
lolcops and their predictability myopic boring response
What businesses/agencies etc. were on that street which could have potentially been the target?
Someone in the megathread had a pretty compelling theory that they were inspired to blow up a switching station by the same text that inspired mcveigh to do okc
I agree with this theory bc all these chucklefucks are unoriginal
What businesses/agencies etc. were on that street which could have potentially been the target?
There's Google maps, no?
