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    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      "Salvageable" is an academic question. Everyone at least from Bernie on left strongly disagrees with the way Democrats operate. The functional question is whether something better can more easily be achieved outside of the party or from within it. Wherever you come down on that question, no one is really invested in the continued existence of the Democratic Party. For instance, Bernie (who was an independent for decades) almost certainly would welcome it if the party fell apart tomorrow.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Absolutely. My point is only that no one even broadly on our side actually wants the Democratic Party to continue on with business as usual. The sole question is how to best make that apple fall.

    • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      In a couple of hundred years when the DSA has replaced all congressional and senate democrats with "democratic socialist" that comment is going to look really foolish.

      We'll still be in Afghanistan though.

  • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    "But Bernie doing this won't force McConnell to do anything"

    "Anyway we're going to do nothing and not force McConnell to do anything"

    Is this performative? Probably. But it has more promise to actually force a vote than....literally doing nothing.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    4 years ago

    "what you bernie bros fail to understand is that literally all senate dems hold vulnerable seats in red states and therefore need to side with the GOP in opposing popular legislation."