I have only seen national DSA leadership oppose the idea or turn it into a personality contest with Jimmy Dore.
How is that democratic at all?! They are openly contradicting the democratically-decided party line…
What an absolutely shit organization.
Here's the quote:
2019 presents a unique opportunity for the Democratic Socialists for Medicare for All campaign: to be a key player in pushing HR 1384, the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act, to a vote in the House of Representatives. DSA is not alone in this work. National Nurses United, along with nearly 30 other national and local unions and progressive organizations are coordinating to take advantage of this moment. Since Bernie Sanders’ presidential run in 2016, single-payer advocates have been successfully turning Medicare for All into a litmus test for politicians. A floor vote in the House will force representatives to finally reveal whether they’re on the side of healthcare profiteers or the side of the working class.
I really don't understand this perspective.
If M4A was going to be voted on, it'd give socialists any opportunity to advocate for M4A in their lives.
Already, this fight for M4A has helped me engage politically with people in my life. My parents and a couple friends have been much more receptive to M4A since the pandemic started.
People need healthcare, regardless of the Congressional agenda. If you are only able to effectively organize based on whether or not something is going to get a vote in Congress, that's a reflection on you.
People want a concrete political project to support.
The conversation around M4A was much more lively in political organizations, unions, and in my personal life during the Democratic Primary. That is because there was a national political project advocating for M4A immediately.
And where is that concrete political project now? Where are the political organizations, unions, and presidential campaigns?
They don't exist and/or aren't organized and coordinated enough to do anything that would materially impact the world in this fight. And instead of starting there, with the unsexy work of building the foundation necessary to have the fight, the people so invested in pushing this have adopted a Field of Dreams strategy wherein "If we struggle, they will come," despite decades of evidence that jumping to the end and having the fight before you have the proverbial army doesn't work.
The purpose of organizing to turn unorganized mass discontent into organized political action. The demand for M4A immediately has been wildly popular within the progressive base. But the progressive institutions are opposed to the tactic.
Organizers who are willing to listen to and learn from the people are working to provide this unorganized mass a political organization to advocate for their needs.
The Slack channel is up to 2,000 people in it after a couple days. It’s more active than any other political organizing space I am in right now.
Yes, of course, M4A is so widely popular with Americans and they are so organized in that effort that...wait, who won the Democratic primary? I can't remember, was it the guy whose campaign was centered around M4A?
Let me know when you get Joe Biden to join your Slack channel, because it ain't going to accomplish shit otherwise. It will be dead in a month when the posters and youtubers behind it abandon it a month from now and move on to something that gets better engagement
"The end goal of my organizing is to lead the Democratic Party"
Stop telling on yourself. It's embarrassing.
The channel, maybe. It depends on how people to continue to utilize it. I've made some pretty useful political connections in this channel I plan to keep.
Lmao, make up your fucking mind. Do you want to force M4A through the government or not? How infested are you with brainworms? You aren't going to organize anything close to a movement on that Slack. Now you are somehow planning on getting M4A passed without Joe Biden signing it. Amazing
Careerist Alert
I want to work with people who are struggling for the progressive issue of getting people health care during a pandemic.
I do not expect this strategy will succeed. I don't expect health care will be guaranteed to people until there is a socialist revolution here.
I didn't expect the Bernie campaign would get him elected. I didn't expect the BLM protests to overthrow the police states across this country. I engaged with these struggle to meet progressive-minded people, and guide them towards political strategies which have been proven to work.
I don't get paid for this shit you fucking dweeb. I work full-time. If building political power is too "careerist" for you, stop positioning yourself as someone worth working with. Just admit Left-wing politics is a counter-culture for you.
Because people wanted to get "Cheeto mussolini" out of the white house and voted on the basis of electability. The circumstances are different now.
This specific statement sounds like you have no believe whatsoever in the capacity of the US working class to be engaged in a struggle to improve their material conditions, and that is, in all earnesty, a form of liberalism.
No, I believe that the working class has the capacity to engage in struggle to improve their material conditions. What I don't believe is that people like you or the person I was responding to are in any way capable or organizing them to that end.
Ad hominem attacks, very nice.
Hey, hi, how do you propose getting people healthcare in the immediate future without any sort of congressional vote?
Hey, hi, how do you propose getting a vote to pass when the strongest tool you have is tweeting?