Yes, of course, Warren is a snake. She should be shunned by anyone left of radlib for lying about Bernie and doing everything she could to tank his campaign...

BUT... she also wasn't relevant in terms of votes and she wasn't the reason Bernie lost. Or at least, she was way down there at like #9 on the list. It feels like a lot of Bernie supporters kinda want it both ways. They want to put a lot of the blame on Warren for Bernie losing but also want to mock her for only getting like 17 votes. She got third in her home state. But it's one or the other. Either she's irrelevant and no one voted for her, or she killed Bernie's campaign.

I get the argument that she should have endorsed Bernie when it was clear she wasn't going to win and Bernie at least had a shot (and he could have used it after Obama put his finger on the scale). Of course she should have, if she had any real leftist principles - but she doesn't, because she is a snake. And I dunno, I don't know if you can expect people to just drop out. Every single politician has a massive ego (even Bernie) and they play to win the game. If we ever get to a place where AOC and Rashida both want to run for president, I don't expect them to sit down together and politely discuss who should run. It's a competition and these are competitive people.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    After Bernie lost I myself lost all faith in electoralism here. Reforming the USA from inside the system is like reforming the Confederacy from inside the system. Impossible.

    It ultimately makes things worse to say that leftwing Democrats are better. Would we say the same if people managed to elect leftwing representatives to the Confederate congress?