the chapo boys repeatedly told us nothing was going to happen

  • CEO_of_TrainGang [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Start organizing for what? The system is already on these people’s side whether they know it or not, these are the most complacent, comfortable people in human history, they have no actual desire for change. Their only real goal as of right now is to keep Trump in power, once that fails they’re just gonna cry about it for a few months until they forget about it. Sure there will eventually be actual fascist uprisings once the collapse really starts setting in, but we’re not there yet even if it seems like we are

      • CEO_of_TrainGang [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Most of the chuds I’ve seen online are straight up rejecting these people and calling them antifa crisis actors. I’m sure some .win freaks are cheering them on but they’re already fascists anyway. The normie chuds don’t like this kinda shit, this is what the uppity blacks and antifas do, not what good god-fearing Americans do

          • CEO_of_TrainGang [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Pretty much lmao, they’ve completely bought into their own propaganda about how they’re all just peaceful concerned citizens who love freedom, and it’s only the America-hating leftists who would ever actually try to overthrow the system or subvert democracy

            They’ve successfully fooled themselves into opposing their own brownshirts and it’s funny af

            • Harukiller14 [they/them,comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I was literally at work installing some duct in an shipping office. It's full of boomers and one lady comes in talking to the others saying "they're evacuating the congress people because they thing the Trump supporters are gonna start killing them" and they all started laughing as if she couldn't believe for even a second why they would think that. You're absolutely correct.

    • anth [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Sigh.

      Fascists take the Capitol building and this is still the line.

        • anth [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          America is more radical than you think how much evidence do you need?

          At this point "the left is too weak" is just an incredibly sad excuse.

            • anth [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              So you're giving up for 4-8 years?

              Why bother with this site at all then? What's the point? Just shut it down and vote Biden. Organize after I guess. Maybe.

                • anth [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  You're right it's hopeless I'm sorry for bringing it up, anyone who does is a fool and I should probably just kill myself.

                  Good talk.

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    I'm not following your line. Pina seems to be arguing that these protestors are a wing of the status quo and not in fact radicals. They only got as far as they did because they faced 0 resistance and needed portapotties and a corndog stand present to carry out this action. There were only a few thousand at most and no other protests outside of DC.

                    This isn't some mass movement, it was a carefully planned and organized event. For contrast, look at the summer protests. Hundreds of thousands marching in every urban center or America. Thousands camping out for days outside the White House. More solidarity protests in cities around the world. That's the radical power we have on our side. We don't need shitters and corndogs.

                  • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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                    4 years ago

                    It's not hopeless it's a game of numbers. Organizing and infiltrating are different things.

      • CEO_of_TrainGang [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Taking the Capitol literally means nothing if they don’t follow it up by actually seizing power or making any demands in the process. We’re already starting to see those same people who stormed the Capitol just turn around and leave cause they never actually planned to do anything other than just walk around and be angry. Their only concrete goal is to keep Trump in power and they’ve already realized they can’t actually make that happen, at least not without genuinely threatening capital which they’re not gonna do considering they can’t even handle being pepper-sprayed, let alone getting into actual armed conflict with the state